Received: from mail-qc0-f189.google.com ([209.85.216.189]:54901) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TkMV3-0000G4-Fn; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 14:16:06 -0800 Received: by mail-qc0-f189.google.com with SMTP id c11sf3385581qca.16 for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 14:15:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=j67na3/Y3zmdvrdpBf/Li/om8lpm2XGj2R7CXGndG1s=; b=ryRmVNJcO5oQ6Y2vQV918K6yDMvXLmKq5/xRgMNwRq066uXGbg1qLJEJUWZPRwbK03 NRTBf0/kQjAVS6bTvs8sfsDsFmB3rDWy5Z981RGhZ2zqq31Jl5aSJzf+lI32fh/XlGvo 5eU0YjP0aH2eiGkYAv34TyLQFoVYaH3JlYFVLS9rzJSt3529H4dUFkN7s9gXOBLYRkUt i1YrNMP15631hI8Ww3KNLMyvMUeD9zH1DOht5nQLqlJpM41GWjObx5iakaZABWX0osps LZ3X7hA2AvkOoIYG5PyY9UsJMcXsKqymfvPNtTkYELJEx1DrCxzL/1R5PhqLh9ysPfzM Hc/A== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=j67na3/Y3zmdvrdpBf/Li/om8lpm2XGj2R7CXGndG1s=; b=YInI8e8a0Ff8zdhS7Zug3LSzcCxnOZK0Pb27UqPTnwlaitWdp83+dXSBi4n48t+Po1 u1HZlG0/PTgAMpM/eTuQuyZQBC1aw61FN+ErNjOw9dAHKo7slHqBb8HBW69XCKeTIHyn 2g38qSKZAhQSsaj1GjN2R1x3h9hi7hU/PgftwUBmS76jVacODXABzYahJKbCZWgc7nl1 L7f7bf41HDAuPIirtIg5OKJVCdi+skBNtWYjbV8BcnW+zN7MzJlOQEsToj5kqD0e4zDF /1zcUtbcpuTqsnDtY0Bdo7oFO7Tx03xBWy3dLV6VerawAzM31R5wTMALn0bgQAbOrSiv i7lA== Received: by 10.50.42.194 with SMTP id q2mr4102840igl.11.1355696150320; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 14:15:50 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.155.166 with SMTP id vx6ls2430079igb.36.canary; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 14:15:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.43.49.195 with SMTP id vb3mr8979764icb.24.1355696149699; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 14:15:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.43.49.195 with SMTP id vb3mr8979763icb.24.1355696149650; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 14:15:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-ia0-f177.google.com (mail-ia0-f177.google.com [209.85.210.177]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id s15si390176igi.1.2012.12.16.14.15.49 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 16 Dec 2012 14:15:49 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of rdentato@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.177 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.210.177; Received: by mail-ia0-f177.google.com with SMTP id u21so4717883ial.8 for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 14:15:49 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.138.74 with SMTP id b10mr9795195icu.33.1355696149539; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 14:15:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.50.194.193 with HTTP; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 14:15:49 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <3a822bb7-b9b2-4a01-b961-449f89522aae@googlegroups.com> References: <3a822bb7-b9b2-4a01-b961-449f89522aae@googlegroups.com> Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 23:15:49 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Orthographies! (not asking which is the best or whatnot, just a general poll) From: Remo Dentato To: lojban-beginners X-Original-Sender: rdentato@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of rdentato@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.177 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rdentato@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6138a26aad2804d0ff9bf6 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --90e6ba6138a26aad2804d0ff9bf6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I use the standard latin lowercase letters for everything that has even the slightest chance og being read by a fellow lojbanist. On the "non-standard side" i never use uppercase to denote stress. Nowdays the accented vowels can do much better and don't need any explanation: =E0=E8=EC=F2=F9. In a couple of comics translations, I experimented the use of a colon ":" as a shorthand for {.i}. Nobody complained, but it might also be that nobody read them, I didn't have much feedback on them :). The reason for the shortand was that I could make a better use of the space in the baloons= . If it's for my self I indulge in a variation of the PIgPen Chipher (the same ancestor of larlermorna) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pigpen_cipherbut I've not put any real effort in it. Remod On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 10:50 PM, spitaki wrote: > Because i know how y'all react to the subject of various created > orthographies, etc. etc. etc. and everybody basically agrees that the > standard orthography should officially be this one, i have a different > question. What orthography do you use to write lojban, and why? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban-beginners/-/FGS6DLGET7YJ. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=3Den. > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den. --90e6ba6138a26aad2804d0ff9bf6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I use the standard latin lowercase letters for everything that has even the= slightest chance og being read by a fellow lojbanist.

On the "= ;non-standard side" i never use uppercase to denote stress. Nowdays th= e accented vowels can do much better and don't need any explanation: = =E0=E8=EC=F2=F9.

In a couple of comics translations, I experimented the use of a colon &= quot;:" as a shorthand for {.i}. Nobody complained, but it might also = be that nobody read them, I didn't have much feedback on them :). The r= eason for the shortand was that I could make a better use of the space in t= he baloons.

If it's for my self I indulge in a variation of the PIgPen Chipher = (the same ancestor of larlermorna) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pigpen_cipher but I've = not put any real effort in it.

Remod


= On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 10:50 PM, spitaki <create.blank@gmail.com= > wrote:
Because i know how y'all react to the su= bject of various created orthographies, etc. etc. etc. and everybody basica= lly agrees that the standard=A0orthography=A0should=A0officially=A0be this = one, i have a different question. What orthography do you use to write lojb= an, and why?=A0

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