Received: from mail-oa0-f61.google.com ([209.85.219.61]:56037) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TkNYz-0000Zx-UA; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 15:24:19 -0800 Received: by mail-oa0-f61.google.com with SMTP id o6sf3402304oag.16 for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 15:23:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=XyLss5eqbphPKX3dRssLFI0ahoxldFrpPCMjQoSaCn8=; b=VEpzmcSSsMYTxFwDB3zNs63UrhG9iFnxRrnUHDJlF355CGeHSVSNcwDc3W/MsO1WrZ 3r40UdzQjZmYdacdzEcK9JysexJdqhs/T3DFWa2fpwzVYzVmNG05myRynhyHru62horD PtVfsOn0p/ur14y8/El+03zc8FBmIIaWjQeuwNOozV/m3H9HA0/Uskeyxu6F47KnLbxB IFMEAxfkcnftkwhMx9kLtrLaIo9Tdo3ywMxUjpsDAWSPQ1BJ3Sp1rGpe//JTgJ3ISip2 uJU8Eh3yfYTqxsTihbY+lfyO3mGeNql4jjLsFLb6EWqjCurQndfh9I7Vsg6QvZU3tt7b AS+w== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=XyLss5eqbphPKX3dRssLFI0ahoxldFrpPCMjQoSaCn8=; b=zGjFAbrhpCsyKC8IXPtME9YrHVTOXRvX4Qt+9L97cJnqKQ7eglL3MqcelQAGuZxS2q f1uG6ZsS6STzz/WKdZz1RXvbA6m3tNQMKp5ctkKJN7Gg9V05+Wz889ZtLgt1rwt4Kvcx ETM1gERj4B57Xnw0mni5aSTOKhzTcp1ktLrkooMJrGRK3wxpbQfetbwvaDm96FQNYfC+ rTy8h4l0wiIk1dpQvT16a3f5B3WLCX/y20rScijkcpV2Vg8Lf3bGHeetOpJRbDkZlrGc tAZqDMbGkOIyPOveeq5/kN++OvkuxxhLQHfdZMpu5cpZbLrDERdeM10/0vmYGB6sueid OYqA== X-Received: by 10.50.47.226 with SMTP id g2mr4163831ign.7.1355700239310; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 15:23:59 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.40.134 with SMTP id x6ls2365222igk.21.canary; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 15:23:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.77.34 with SMTP id p2mr3243818paw.30.1355700237802; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 15:23:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.77.34 with SMTP id p2mr3243817paw.30.1355700237791; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 15:23:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-da0-f49.google.com (mail-da0-f49.google.com [209.85.210.49]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ab9si2548947pbd.1.2012.12.16.15.23.57 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 16 Dec 2012 15:23:57 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of rpglover64@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.49 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.210.49; Received: by mail-da0-f49.google.com with SMTP id v40so2138825dad.8 for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 15:23:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.68.234.201 with SMTP id ug9mr37856847pbc.63.1355700237704; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 15:23:57 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.68.15.70 with HTTP; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 15:23:37 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <3a822bb7-b9b2-4a01-b961-449f89522aae@googlegroups.com> References: <3a822bb7-b9b2-4a01-b961-449f89522aae@googlegroups.com> From: ".arpis." Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 18:23:37 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Orthographies! (not asking which is the best or whatnot, just a general poll) To: Lojban Beginners X-Original-Sender: rpglover64@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of rpglover64@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.49 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rpglover64@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b33da18171c3104d1008fc5 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --047d7b33da18171c3104d1008fc5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I rarely write, so lowercase Latin letters, cause that's what's on my keyboard. I like the notion of explicitly marking accents (e.g. like here: http://www.lojban.org/tiki/The+Princess+and+the+Pea#lo_noltrut_u_po_cp_na_lo_d_mbi_translation_by_selpa_039_i_), but I don't do it myself because that's more effort. The colon as a shorthand for ".i" seems reasonable to me in works that would be short on horizontal space, but I wouldn't use it in standard text. I played around a bit with various orthographies (http://imgur.com/qjhZK), but don't use any of them much. Larlermorna seems like it would be the best for creative calligraphy; srilermorna is pretty but a pain to write; zbalermorna is the one I like best in concept, but my handwriting in it is atrocious. On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 4:50 PM, spitaki wrote: > Because i know how y'all react to the subject of various created > orthographies, etc. etc. etc. and everybody basically agrees that the > standard orthography should officially be this one, i have a different > question. What orthography do you use to write lojban, and why? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban-beginners/-/FGS6DLGET7YJ. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. > -- mu'o mi'e .arpis. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. --047d7b33da18171c3104d1008fc5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I rarely write, so lowercase Latin letters, cause that's what's on = my=20 keyboard. I like the notion of explicitly marking accents (e.g. like=20 here:=20 http://www.lojban.org/tiki/= The+Princess+and+the+Pea#lo_noltrut_u_po_cp_na_lo_d_mbi_translation_by_selp= a_039_i_), but I don't do it myself because that's more effort.

The co= lon as a shorthand for ".i" seems reasonable to me in works that = would be short on horizontal space, but I wouldn't use it in standard t= ext.

I played around a bit with various orthographies (http://imgur.com/qjhZK), but don't use any of them mu= ch. Larlermorna seems like it would be the best for creative calligraphy; s= rilermorna is pretty but a pain to write; zbalermorna is the one I like bes= t in concept, but my handwriting in it is atrocious.


On Sun, Dec 1= 6, 2012 at 4:50 PM, spitaki <create.blank@gmail.com> wr= ote:
Because i know how y'all react to the su= bject of various created orthographies, etc. etc. etc. and everybody basica= lly agrees that the standard=A0orthography=A0should=A0officially=A0be this = one, i have a different question. What orthography do you use to write lojb= an, and why?=A0

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