Received: from mail-qc0-f189.google.com ([209.85.216.189]:41443) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TkWt3-0002wH-N7; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 01:21:33 -0800 Received: by mail-qc0-f189.google.com with SMTP id c11sf3762297qca.16 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 01:21:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=y17Zowq5hW1ANf7HVUOnVFdQkvByg65Z6qPLiYPep3w=; b=K3394yH8N3J9wZZVM4fiSzPV5JTkEJK4WCZocLpSxgEJ1mfGCf80GGKHzQ6MpoZpwD kPalaZ3yiRjXUOkAecRpsV9q2/6j+eLeS1fCKgUYMk7uuqzQBa/jpyarHtGvig1ZlP6Z 7nrVH8OCnHlY/BDunVWIbReymeUYHAQDi78HGJDad0Tx9eo6MJb/b/yQ9xv0ZRDq/z3Q aEuaEpEa7gacrh/AjA62QzthxaGVBpTnkBOE+5uvDlWRamJSdumdMRMrMjbrhm7OWbT2 rEXTfqE76HOCcKZANdVjozVearaPUsSQ6wMuPPWWA3V6FjK4O+KSHjj2vZoA+isifF+M odgA== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=y17Zowq5hW1ANf7HVUOnVFdQkvByg65Z6qPLiYPep3w=; b=j6tLMjuBAJRJa35v3Qpl7O8gbgrcXM0qkIjVYZjNq6a97jisdQrF7t+hn56ev/f/rJ /bbLtyR4GVdCqExYuShw2bejE94nqmFmnc+evGbes8jwYJstIU5lgORobqNWar2bvWYq AgGXWQMBLkaBrMW1YdvKVGisZs/cJXYr/aoGcFwudeLSmRcGFWghKqWjKyxUppR9vpQS LsMLuK1x3aomsSE86wnF4DSrVFh5/rpgyQkJ7isN/5Mw4O6QobDJkd291+V05oDeT2R+ Hgc1g4rbG9XHyyzMO/eS2T+SMZdjk+6hGNOrwKWKsAI+w7vu/JSTExtkchNy2bR9Mbow jbcA== Received: by 10.50.37.232 with SMTP id b8mr4907269igk.4.1355736078767; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 01:21:18 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.151.234 with SMTP id ut10ls2653789igb.31.gmail; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 01:21:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.42.98.148 with SMTP id s20mr9324547icn.8.1355736078322; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 01:21:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.42.98.148 with SMTP id s20mr9324546icn.8.1355736078308; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 01:21:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-ob0-f169.google.com (mail-ob0-f169.google.com [209.85.214.169]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d5si492340iga.1.2012.12.17.01.21.18 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 17 Dec 2012 01:21:18 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.169 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.169; Received: by mail-ob0-f169.google.com with SMTP id v19so5283300obq.28 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 01:21:18 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.32.200 with SMTP id l8mr11418714oei.43.1355736078185; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 01:21:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.60.178.237 with HTTP; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 01:21:17 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <3a822bb7-b9b2-4a01-b961-449f89522aae@googlegroups.com> References: <3a822bb7-b9b2-4a01-b961-449f89522aae@googlegroups.com> Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 02:21:17 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Orthographies! (not asking which is the best or whatnot, just a general poll) From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.169 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8fb1f5b059765a04d108e77a X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --e89a8fb1f5b059765a04d108e77a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 2:50 PM, spitaki wrote: > Because i know how y'all react to the subject of various created > orthographies, etc. etc. etc. and everybody basically agrees that the > standard orthography should officially be this one, i have a different > question. What orthography do you use to write lojban, and why? > > Straight up official, including the recent move from caps to accent marks to indicate non-default stress, in the extremely rare cases where I'm using a such a word. I have a compose key for my computer, so typing, for example =E0 is just ,,<`>. (I'm assuming that the move is indeed an official one, but if not, it should be and has my vote.) I do not use any symbols, and in fact really dislike seeing them in Lojban text, as they actually make it /harder/ for me to read it, not easier. --=20 mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. 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On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 2:50 PM, spitaki <= create.blank@gmail.com> wrote:
Because i know how y'all react to the subject of various created orthog= raphies, etc. etc. etc. and everybody basically agrees that the standard=A0= orthography=A0should=A0officially=A0be this one, i have a different questio= n. What orthography do you use to write lojban, and why?=A0

Straight up official, including the recent move from caps to ac= cent marks to indicate non-default stress, in the extremely rare cases wher= e I'm using a such a word. I have a compose key for my computer, so typ= ing, for example =E0 is just <compose>,<A>,<`>. (I'm = assuming that the move is indeed an official one, but if not, it should be = and has my vote.)

I do not use any symbols, and in fact really dislike seeing them in Loj= ban text, as they actually make it /harder/ for me to read it, not easier.<= br clear=3D"all">
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(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )

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