Received: from mail-pa0-f61.google.com ([209.85.220.61]:62971) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Tm5qe-0003lC-R6; Fri, 21 Dec 2012 08:53:33 -0800 Received: by mail-pa0-f61.google.com with SMTP id bg2sf2446508pad.16 for ; Fri, 21 Dec 2012 08:53:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:x-received:received-spf :mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=INJZF87Vn+55Pc/S7G69WOR+fhG/F0q+SHm7IFDADls=; b=ss79cdGb4WX86uoECzWsxgLQ/Wm6Ysyk30/tAOZ0AUUQG4+zSLl+AS3GUZtyIt7AlU Fob2JQOtIVqOW4gIkmmtEXi8Dn6mkeFIKwnohub8s40nroEciV+Te6FeYJo03jH9wOT1 gtqFj5iONOnWn09iYTqvuWfm8nwku90BOJ5ySTL79pApwiGBWGV7sQw9/mgh/VIQvo08 X3wiv0ug9HCBEPVEvE2CoXD3rm4xHEF7FBOmz7zmVedrUb3vL0UAJ9Ho4KPMAFSPS055 y/zloXZGsm7wC+Ob2ubJD6JSfBTzbDEiYwVo0FdrW0lhunzdOCiXwR+oyQVNEqC8z8aQ AWkA== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:x-received:received-spf :mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=INJZF87Vn+55Pc/S7G69WOR+fhG/F0q+SHm7IFDADls=; b=z5/AbG59+s0Q2Av9QBTWCiyyLwczfjtvHzZU9y22jiOv2jpcgNCo2bsT2jNtHEc/fy +joaVecoXdZxiWXe3EIgNdODXlsjd8Nd1ycrfdIr1ybjaptU6wlLvZ4J14IgmI5Hf1Mr C4NicAJ6Us0nvYcLmWQ0O3l0kv+G3WplhBU8sZspvbTYpgkShEl/R76i+KSsmlTmIBIW 0SMDmE/2PI6r9i15zpALyvqK+4Rtz1YS5yNIF5a4KsZVpY5/y7PHBXlZUWNxoL9J7vNf yZFxlQnUi/pha46yTsP9bJwdLbtEbXIitxMwfl1fKd5zS+mnrHeuKN7+C/yl+7ClfUk6 vVng== X-Received: by 10.50.203.9 with SMTP id km9mr2796411igc.7.1356108798267; Fri, 21 Dec 2012 08:53:18 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.37.141 with SMTP id y13ls6416792igj.4.canary; Fri, 21 Dec 2012 08:53:17 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.42.175.70 with SMTP id az6mr11005614icb.33.1356108797737; Fri, 21 Dec 2012 08:53:17 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.42.175.70 with SMTP id az6mr11005612icb.33.1356108797711; Fri, 21 Dec 2012 08:53:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-ob0-f176.google.com (mail-ob0-f176.google.com [209.85.214.176]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o7si1707921igl.0.2012.12.21.08.53.17 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 21 Dec 2012 08:53:17 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.176 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.176; Received: by mail-ob0-f176.google.com with SMTP id un3so4673129obb.7 for ; Fri, 21 Dec 2012 08:53:17 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.98.19 with SMTP id ee19mr11386755obb.90.1356108797380; Fri, 21 Dec 2012 08:53:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.182.186.98 with HTTP; Fri, 21 Dec 2012 08:53:17 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <8530910.RV8mF0B4zq@caracal> Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 11:53:17 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] mi surla tu'a lomi iaxti rai lonu jdini ponse From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: mturniansky@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.176 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mturniansky@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=14dae93b60142509cc04d15fafd3 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --14dae93b60142509cc04d15fafd3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Right. They way I would interpret the sentence is "I'm relaxing with my yacht, with having money is the best thing at doing that" A bit off-kilter from what you are trying. --gejyspa On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 8:35 PM, Ian Johnson wrote: > That's not quite right, as then you're the traji1; having the traji1 be > the event of having money is weird because there's so many things that > could be traji2, some of which don't even involve the assertion that you > actually have money in the first place. > > mu'o mi'e la latro'a > > > On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 7:01 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > >> On Saturday, December 15, 2012 07:54:01 Betsemes wrote: >> > How would you translate this to English? Sorry for not providing the >> > meaning that I wanted to convey. Right now, I just want to know >> > whether or not I did it correctly without anyone telling me the >> > correct way. >> >> I'd say "Having the most money, I relax on my yacht." However, it's >> difficult to >> translate into English the way it's worded. >> >> Pierre >> -- >> sei do'anai mi'a djuno puze'e noroi nalselganse srera >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Lojban Beginners" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. >> >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. 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=A0 Right. =A0They way I would interpret the sentence is &= quot;I'm relaxing with my yacht, with having money is the best thing at= doing that" =A0A bit off-kilter from what you are trying.
=A0 --g= ejyspa

On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 8:35 PM, Ian Johnson= <blindbravado@gmail.com> wrote:
That's not quite right, as then you're the traji1; having the traji= 1 be the event of having money is weird because there's so many things = that could be traji2, some of which don't even involve the assertion th= at you actually have money in the first place.

mu'o mi'e la latro'a


On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 7:01 PM, Pierre= Abbat <phma@bezitopo.org> wrote:
On Saturday, December 15, 2012 07:54:01= Betsemes wrote:
> How would you translate this to English? =A0Sorry for not providing th= e
> meaning that I wanted to convey. Right now, I just want to know
> whether or not I did it correctly without anyone telling me the
> correct way.

I'd say "Having the most money, I relax on my yacht." H= owever, it's difficult to
translate into English the way it's worded.

Pierre
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