Received: from mail-fa0-f60.google.com ([209.85.161.60]:58822) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Tpf6l-0001ch-Qu; Mon, 31 Dec 2012 05:08:53 -0800 Received: by mail-fa0-f60.google.com with SMTP id m1sf5112733fam.5 for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2012 05:08:40 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:x-received:received-spf:date:from :to:subject:message-id:references:mime-version:content-type :content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=X+MbaZFJthg5bYzzwpX4lcsMvM57axIixnCJSolyBaM=; b=rGBq/9LwFvIH3Mc5J+LXwjP6e9C/2skA7iUnpC6QKKk2cM0jt5iQRUD/p+xZ1T70a+ ja/NSJ4G6bfHPUKMFsBhaLta1Xbh0okwHpuUNkCX8dXLAyIIvjDK1Ne86ANaFfRIKR+y jvSu23FRLzQiacqYKc2GFDrPDdSWXRNJatto19z0NTLCuFDpagJsXqEkfTeKdVZa71c1 btKESuH9FmogYb9e53BtM8G7MQK9audKypkzslh9ondhGF7qWgLCzlQwHEUkY1lTGaXo BKJaVx9QoglIFmmiB2XW/ZK1pNy13j0j9YQvqQQailLAjMNlV3oJ6E6jGDJlq9OLKAU5 kYSQ== X-Received: by 10.180.109.193 with SMTP id hu1mr1461224wib.4.1356959320318; Mon, 31 Dec 2012 05:08:40 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.180.72.244 with SMTP id g20ls6191307wiv.38.canary; Mon, 31 Dec 2012 05:08:39 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.14.214.197 with SMTP id c45mr50678506eep.7.1356959319906; Mon, 31 Dec 2012 05:08:39 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.14.214.197 with SMTP id c45mr50678504eep.7.1356959319893; Mon, 31 Dec 2012 05:08:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from dd17822.kasserver.com (dd17822.kasserver.com. [85.13.138.119]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g9si900124eeo.1.2012.12.31.05.08.39 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 31 Dec 2012 05:08:39 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 85.13.138.119 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of me@v4hn.de) client-ip=85.13.138.119; Received: from samsa (brln-4dbaa5a3.pool.mediaWays.net [77.186.165.163]) by dd17822.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 3DC6A86501E for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2012 14:08:39 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 14:08:38 +0100 From: v4hn To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Sandwich is better than eternal love. Proof. Message-ID: <20121231130838.GE32434@samsa.fritz.box> References: <7ab190d5-2f38-459d-921b-51a49a00fd2e@googlegroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="UnaWdueM1EBWVRzC" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <7ab190d5-2f38-459d-921b-51a49a00fd2e@googlegroups.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Original-Sender: me@v4hn.de X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 85.13.138.119 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of me@v4hn.de) smtp.mail=me@v4hn.de Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --UnaWdueM1EBWVRzC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 01:43:07AM -0800, la gleki wrote: > This question appeared in the russian casnu stuzi. Sorry for ignoring your question, though it's an interesting one and I'm not sure pier's solution works out.. But I was confused about your usage of {casnu stuzi} for "discussion site/p= age", for {stuzi} clearly does not refer to "site" in the "page" sense, but "site" in a geometrical sense. However, /who the hell/ came up with {samci'ejudri} for "website"? {ba'e cf= ipu} (confusing) Even something like {te ciska} (something someone can write on/= to) is _much_ better. {samci'ejudri} covers aspects of websites which are very = different =66rom what people mean by the word. I know there was a discussion about th= at quite some time ago, but is there some simple way of expressing "content be= arer" (which could be combined with {kibro}) or some other way to express this (probably something generalizing the meaning of physical page )... v4hn --UnaWdueM1EBWVRzC Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlDhjlYACgkQMBKLZs4+wjxtqwCeNo2lDeq6l+WiLbuXzm2kenSn /2IAn3DNCb8bogH+eBXDq3RWTSxOI9NB =UHom -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --UnaWdueM1EBWVRzC--