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On Monday, December 31, 2012 5:08:38 PM UTC+4, v4hn wrote:On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 01:43:07AM -080= 0, la gleki wrote:
> This question appeared in the russian casnu stuzi.

Sorry for ignoring your question, though it's an interesting one and
I'm not sure pier's solution works out..

But I was confused about your usage of {casnu stuzi} for "discussion si= te/page",
for {stuzi} clearly does not refer to "site" in the "page" sense, but
"site" in a geometrical sense.

However, /who the hell/ came up with {samci'ejudri} for "website"? {ba'= e cfipu}
(confusing) Even something like {te ciska} (something someone can write= on/to)
is _much_ better. {samci'ejudri} covers aspects of websites which are v= ery different
from what people mean by the word. I know there was a discussion about = that
quite some time ago, but is there some simple way of expressing "conten= t bearer"
(which could be combined with {kibro}) or some other way to express thi= s
(probably something generalizing the meaning of physical page )...

There is. It's {se tcidu}  and {t= e tcidu}.
However, {ju'o} (I'm sure) that {papri} (page) will soo= n lose the word "physical" from it's definition.



v4hn

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