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The trick lies in saying that nothing is better than eternal love--which 
can be misread, or at least given the opposite intonation of the intended 
meaning.
And the other thing is, saying a sandwich "is better than nothing" could be 
damning with faint praise, but in this case it acquires a "one in hand, 2 
in the bush" kind of meaning--meaning it has potentially infinite value.
 
Is there a way to say every alternative to being loved (e.g. going skating, 
or even not owning anything) is better?
But I think the implication is here too is that LOVE CAN BE POSSESSED hence 
the *eternal* because you have it always. Well, to me it seems it's not so 
much *eternal* as *life-long* but..."I would rather have a sandwich now 
than someone's life-long love"? "Does being loved forever fill my stomach 
now?" Priorities.
 
 

On Monday, December 31, 2012 4:43:07 AM UTC-5, la gleki wrote:

> This question appeared in the russian casnu stuzi.
>
> What can be better than eternal love? Nothing. 
> Sandwich is better than nothing.
> Therefore, sandwich is better than eternal love.
>
> How can we disprove this statement in lojban?
>

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lternative to being loved (e.g. going skating, or even not owning anything)=
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CAN BE POSSESSED hence the <em>eternal</em> because you have it always. Wel=
l, to me it seems it's not so much <em>eternal</em> as <em>life-long</em> b=
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sp;"Does being loved forever fill my stomach now?"&nbsp;Priorities.</div><d=
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ng.</div><div>Therefore, sandwich is better than eternal love.</div><div><b=
r></div><div>How can we disprove this statement in lojban?</div></blockquot=
e>

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