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To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lytlesw@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lytlesw@gmail.com designates 209.85.220.169 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lytlesw@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bdc7a9a5c3eb004d2409215 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --047d7bdc7a9a5c3eb004d2409215 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 6:34 AM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > On Monday, December 31, 2012 01:43:07 la gleki wrote: > > This question appeared in the russian casnu stuzi. > > > > What can be better than eternal love? 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On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 6:34 AM, Pierre = Abbat <phma@bezitopo.org> wrote:
On Monday, December 31, 2012 01:43:07 la gleki wrote:
> This question appeared in the russian casnu stuzi.
>
> What can be better than eternal love? Nothing.
> Sandwich is better than nothing.
> Therefore, sandwich is better than eternal love.
>
> How can we disprove this statement in lojban?

The translation of "nothing" is different.

ma xagmau lo vitno nunprami? noda
.i lo snuji cu xagmau lo nomei

There's also "lo nondza". I'm not sure whether it would f= it in either sentence.

Per Chapter 3.7 = CLL, "nonydza", no?=A0

stevo=A0

mu'omi'e .pier
--
sei do'anai mi'a djuno puze'e noroi nalselganse srera

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