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On 2 January 2013 08:14, Remo Dentato <rdentato@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Ian Johnson <blindbravado@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> {lo nu remna cu mleca lo nu vrude kei lo ni ce'u vajni}.
>
>
> I would go with {lo nu remna cu mecvai lo nu vrude}.
>
> It would be one of those "easy lujvo" we discussed long time ago:
>
> {mecyro'e} -> x1=m1 is less than x2=m2 in the aspect/property brode by
> amount x3=m4
>
> {ko'a mecyro'e ko'e ko'i} -> {ko'a mleca ko'e lo ka brode kei ko'i}
>
>
>
You've got it backwards :P It's {rodme'a} -> {mleca fi lo ka broda}. In
your example, the tertau of the veljvo suddenly became the seltau of the
actual meaning; that usually indicates naljvajvo. The trick is that the GDS
(gismu deep structure) is the reverse of the veljvo: {.i mi djica lo nu mi
kansa lo pampe'o lo ka klama lo kindi'u} -> {.i mi kindi'u klama ke pampe'o
kansa ke'e djica} (this one wouldn't be 100% jvajvo, as a lujvo, but it
wouldn't be too far.)

.i mi'e la tsani mu'o

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On 2 January 2013 08:14, Remo Dentato <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:rdentato@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">rdentato@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> =
wrote:<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" styl=
e=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div=
 class=3D"im">On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Ian Johnson <span dir=3D"ltr"=
>&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:blindbravado@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">blindbrava=
do@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>


<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-=
left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">{lo nu remna cu mleca lo =
nu vrude kei lo ni ce&#39;u vajni}.</blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>

I would go with {lo nu remna cu mecvai lo nu vrude}.<br>
<br>It would be one of those &quot;easy lujvo&quot; we discussed long time =
ago:<br><br></div><div>{mecyro&#39;e} -&gt; x1=3Dm1 is less than x2=3Dm2 in=
 the aspect/property brode by amount x3=3Dm4<br><br></div><div>{ko&#39;a me=
cyro&#39;e ko&#39;e ko&#39;i} -&gt; {ko&#39;a mleca ko&#39;e lo ka brode ke=
i ko&#39;i}<br>


<br></div><div><br></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div=
>You&#39;ve got it backwards :P It&#39;s {rodme&#39;a} -&gt; {mleca fi lo k=
a broda}. In your example, the tertau of the veljvo suddenly became the sel=
tau of the actual meaning; that usually indicates naljvajvo. The trick is t=
hat the GDS (gismu deep structure) is the reverse of the veljvo: {.i mi dji=
ca lo nu mi kansa lo pampe&#39;o lo ka klama lo kindi&#39;u} -&gt; {.i mi k=
indi&#39;u klama ke pampe&#39;o kansa ke&#39;e djica} (this one wouldn&#39;=
t be 100% jvajvo, as a lujvo, but it wouldn&#39;t be too far.)</div>

<div><br></div><div>.i mi&#39;e la tsani mu&#39;o</div></div>

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