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On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 10:01 AM, neizyn. <sjacket@gmail.com> wrote:

> coi
> .i mi'e neizyn.
>
> Sorry, I'm just a beginnger! but I was wondering about a special situation.
> Suppose there's a group of girls with one guy; I'm talking to one of the
> girls, and I make a statement referring to the guy without unambiguously
> referring to him by name or other reference. This is because he's the only
> person in the group like that. Say he's blonde. Is there a way I can say
> that "someone is blond" oooooor 'blonde exists/obtains such that x is
> blonde' ? Better yet, could I use that with some kind of reference?
>

{pa pelxre} == {pa da poi pelkre} => "one X which-is golden-haired"
{pa lo prenu poi pelxre} => "A singular person which-is blonde"
{lo pelxre prenu} => "One or more blonde type-of person"
{ko'a goi (any of the above)} => "It-1, which-is what we will call {any of
the above)"

I'm sure there's other ways to do it as well, but those are the most
obvious, to me at any rate.

-- 
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.i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )

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<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 10:01 AM, neizyn. <span =
dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:sjacket@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">sjac=
ket@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" st=
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<div>coi</div><div>.i mi&#39;e neizyn.</div><div>=A0</div><div>Sorry, I&#39=
;m just a beginnger! but I was wondering about a special situation.</div><d=
iv>Suppose there&#39;s a group of girls with one guy; I&#39;m talking to on=
e of the girls, and I make a statement referring to the guy without unambig=
uously referring to him by name or other reference. This is because he&#39;=
s the only person in the group like that. Say he&#39;s blonde. Is there a w=
ay=A0I can say that &quot;someone is blond&quot; oooooor &#39;blonde exists=
/obtains such that x is blonde&#39; ? Better yet, could I use that with som=
e kind of reference?=A0 </div>
</blockquote><div><br>{pa pelxre} =3D=3D {pa da poi pelkre} =3D&gt; &quot;o=
ne X which-is golden-haired&quot;<br>{pa lo prenu poi pelxre} =3D&gt; &quot=
;A singular person which-is blonde&quot;<br>{lo pelxre prenu} =3D&gt; &quot=
;One or more blonde type-of person&quot;<br>
{ko&#39;a goi (any of the above)} =3D&gt; &quot;It-1, which-is what we will=
 call {any of the above)&quot;<br><br>I&#39;m sure there&#39;s other ways t=
o do it as well, but those are the most obvious, to me at any rate.<br></di=
v>
</div><br>-- <br>mu&#39;o mi&#39;e .aionys.<br><br>.i.e&#39;ucai ko cmima l=
o pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo&#39;o<br>(Come to the Dot Si=
de! Luke, I am your father. :D )<br>

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