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On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 7:41 AM, Remo Dentato <rdentato@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 3:22 PM, Jacob Errington <nictytan@gmail.com>wrote:
>> You've got it backwards :P It's {rodme'a} -> {mleca fi lo ka broda}. In
>> your example, the tertau of the veljvo suddenly became the seltau of the
>> actual meaning; that usually indicates  naljvajvo
>>
>>
>> Not necessarily. A lujvo means what the lujvo maker makes it mean once
>> you define its structure, so it's a matter of agreeing on the meaning,
>> there's no right or wrong. For {mutce} I use {-tce} but for {mleca} I
>> prefer {mec-}.
>>
>> Of course I've no problem with {rodme'a} as {ko'a mleca ko'e lo ka broda
>> kei ko'i} but it has exactly the same sumti places as {mecybo'e} (as
>> defined in my previous message).
>>
>
> Yes, but he wasn't talking about lujvo in general, he was talking about
> jvajvo, which is a special class of lujvo that follows predictable
> patterns. mecbo'e does not follow these predicatble patterns and so are
> naljvajvo - not regular- whereas rodme'a do and are.
>

And obviously these "easy lujvo" should all be jvajvo.


>
> --
> mu'o mi'e .aionys.
>
> .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
> (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )
>



-- 
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<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Jonathan Jones =
<span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:eyeonus@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank=
">eyeonus@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quo=
te" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"=
>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div class=3D"im">On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 7:41 AM=
, Remo Dentato <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rdentato@gmail.com" =
target=3D"_blank">rdentato@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br></div><div cl=
ass=3D"im">
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra">On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at=
 3:22 PM, Jacob Errington <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:nictytan@=
gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">nictytan@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
You&#39;ve
 got it backwards :P It&#39;s {rodme&#39;a} -&gt; {mleca fi lo ka broda}. I=
n=20
your example, the tertau of the veljvo suddenly became the seltau of the
 actual meaning; that usually indicates=A0 naljvajvo<br><br><br></div></div=
><div class=3D"gmail_extra">Not necessarily. A lujvo means what the lujvo m=
aker makes it mean once you define its structure, so it&#39;s a matter of a=
greeing on the meaning, there&#39;s no right or wrong. For {mutce} I use {-=
tce} but for {mleca} I prefer {mec-}. <br>


<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">Of course I&#39;ve no problem with {ro=
dme&#39;a} as {ko&#39;a mleca ko&#39;e lo ka broda kei ko&#39;i} but it has=
 exactly the same sumti places as {mecybo&#39;e} (as defined in my previous=
 message).<br>

</div></div></blockquote></div></div><br clear=3D"all">Yes, but he wasn&#39=
;t talking about lujvo in general, he was talking about jvajvo, which is a =
special class of lujvo that follows predictable patterns. mecbo&#39;e does =
not follow these predicatble patterns and so are naljvajvo - not regular- w=
hereas rodme&#39;a do and are.<span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888=
"><br>
</font></span></blockquote><div><br>And obviously these &quot;easy lujvo&qu=
ot; should all be jvajvo.<br>=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" sty=
le=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span =
class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888">
<br>-- <br>mu&#39;o mi&#39;e .aionys.<br><br>.i.e&#39;ucai ko cmima lo piln=
o be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo&#39;o<br>(Come to the Dot Side! Lu=
ke, I am your father. :D )<br>
</font></span></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>mu&#39;o =
mi&#39;e .aionys.<br><br>.i.e&#39;ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi=
.luk. mi patfu do zo&#39;o<br>(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father=
. :D )<br>

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