Received: from mail-qc0-f191.google.com ([209.85.216.191]:38890)
	by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128)
	(Exim 4.76)
	(envelope-from <lojban-beginners+bncBDUJXW4Z74DBBK5ISKDQKGQE7BFZE5Q@googlegroups.com>)
	id 1TqUdu-00019i-H0; Wed, 02 Jan 2013 12:10:33 -0800
Received: by mail-qc0-f191.google.com with SMTP id h29sf8708884qcu.8
        for <multiple recipients>; Wed, 02 Jan 2013 12:10:19 -0800 (PST)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;
        d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806;
        h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:x-received:received-spf
         :mime-version:sender:from:date:message-id:subject:to
         :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to
         :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post
         :list-help:list-archive:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type;
        bh=uJPTEKWLmsAQpuKxF5Q71GhMeIJ/XPBmFx3pPlQIVfg=;
        b=rPNo6DV/muEMRnjKenzE0WtxiTvuJR0s7JZX1hytRJ6iLN/TGMjzGCSKH87nS6w/gU
         QQP1FTfFykRSkfe6446Ir1KoaktOWyXw8rwwqXSqZHilXVYFXKGfFdY5lrT5XZmRG3vz
         oVW4tLK4SH0VAho5Q9Haps2az6zu4JxRHJKnuSeToNc+V9rCJxpsRvWKfs9AIz/53esv
         AFdPgl7cns9HyuLydOufQFPVt1jb4WpeMg4k7+CWdQ3ShHGj8j3l+xgMhYcoo+5Co1Vt
         Y/XUE6FvAb3Gc8cyFxQd0uANybZAE+qIu/o7k/zzLS8c9+9yXlDg1jhjQr/Ex5Lphiij
         0Dmw==
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;
        d=gmail.com; s=20120113;
        h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:x-received:received-spf
         :mime-version:sender:from:date:message-id:subject:to
         :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to
         :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post
         :list-help:list-archive:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type;
        bh=uJPTEKWLmsAQpuKxF5Q71GhMeIJ/XPBmFx3pPlQIVfg=;
        b=AjUamhJlkW22T25ZB5XwnneNkrXmbR6erC2Q2LjYeqLh0Ndq8A8zVgej4gBNVFTl1D
         mr1I1UvIjK77HRmFKCN1RZRN0IGwS8TVJY4T8O+tBgU+taauq/7HxAsQoawdnw23Hx3f
         K3Il7GYjUm4FPL/jgA2oGYKOFzsBhnpotOd1DjIqxiDiYWvXafjGKOk/+U+Rj35gghwq
         WJEIqgUtH4aJq77CwkKl3W7vn1YHFWUsjV5GuUn+eM3S41zsIecxOIHo4eMxNZgt9zpy
         GeuwxdyUaGwuH+LhLdgrSSF/r5mCCgRoMTh4ij52PJaa/c9F+OXLnhzE971LGNAiJrwa
         vgkA==
X-Received: by 10.50.37.232 with SMTP id b8mr15084970igk.4.1357157419653;
        Wed, 02 Jan 2013 12:10:19 -0800 (PST)
X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com
Received: by 10.50.163.38 with SMTP id yf6ls10669280igb.12.gmail; Wed, 02 Jan
 2013 12:10:19 -0800 (PST)
X-Received: by 10.66.85.166 with SMTP id i6mr6719405paz.13.1357157419213;
        Wed, 02 Jan 2013 12:10:19 -0800 (PST)
X-Received: by 10.66.85.166 with SMTP id i6mr6719404paz.13.1357157419202;
        Wed, 02 Jan 2013 12:10:19 -0800 (PST)
Received: from mail-pb0-f42.google.com (mail-pb0-f42.google.com [209.85.160.42])
        by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id bv9si9500416pab.1.2013.01.02.12.10.19
        (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER);
        Wed, 02 Jan 2013 12:10:19 -0800 (PST)
Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of rpglover64@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.42 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.160.42;
Received: by mail-pb0-f42.google.com with SMTP id rp2so8074043pbb.15
        for <lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com>; Wed, 02 Jan 2013 12:10:19 -0800 (PST)
Received: by 10.68.219.36 with SMTP id pl4mr40580431pbc.124.1357157417684;
 Wed, 02 Jan 2013 12:10:17 -0800 (PST)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com
Received: by 10.68.15.70 with HTTP; Wed, 2 Jan 2013 12:09:57 -0800 (PST)
From: ".arpis." <rpglover64+jbobau@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 15:09:57 -0500
Message-ID: <CALm==BXS-xLBffU6g9mG7XAHa-RJAvEuhMv46c0q__XG2VpM7A@mail.gmail.com>
Subject: [lojban-beginners] Should/Ought
To: Lojban Beginners <lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com>
X-Original-Sender: rpglover64@gmail.com
X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com:
 domain of rpglover64@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.42 as permitted sender)
 smtp.mail=rpglover64@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com
Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com
Precedence: list
Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com
List-ID: <lojban-beginners.googlegroups.com>
X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892
List-Post: <http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners/post?hl=en_US>, <mailto:lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com>
List-Help: <http://groups.google.com/support/?hl=en_US>, <mailto:lojban-beginners+help@googlegroups.com>
List-Archive: <http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en_US>
List-Subscribe: <http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners/subscribe?hl=en_US>,
 <mailto:lojban-beginners+subscribe@googlegroups.com>
List-Unsubscribe: <http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners/subscribe?hl=en_US>,
 <mailto:googlegroups-manage+300742228892+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com>
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b2edc23c90f5b04d253d583
X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/)
X-Spam_score: -0.1
X-Spam_score_int: 0
X-Spam_bar: /

--047d7b2edc23c90f5b04d253d583
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

ju'o so'i roi retsku .i ku'i ji'a sai mi krefu retsku di'e .i fanva zo'oi
should fu ma to mu'i zoi gy. I should eat .gy. joi zoi gy. I should go to
the gym .gy. to mabla me zo zoi javni toi toi

"I'm sure it's been asked many times before; even so, I ask it again: How
does one translate "should" (e.g. "I should eat", "I should go to the gym"
(Damned "zoi" rules))?

-- 
mu'o mi'e .arpis.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group.
To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en.


--047d7b2edc23c90f5b04d253d583
Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1

<div dir="ltr"><div>ju&#39;o so&#39;i roi retsku .i ku&#39;i ji&#39;a sai mi krefu retsku di&#39;e .i fanva zo&#39;oi should fu ma to mu&#39;i zoi gy. I should eat .gy. joi zoi gy. I should go to the gym .gy. to mabla me zo zoi javni toi toi<br>

<br></div>&quot;I&#39;m sure it&#39;s been asked many times before; even so, I ask it again: How does one translate &quot;should&quot; (e.g. &quot;I should eat&quot;, &quot;I should go to the gym&quot; (Damned &quot;zoi&quot; rules))?<br clear="all">

<div><div><br>-- <br>mu&#39;o mi&#39;e .arpis.<br>
</div></div></div>

<p></p>

-- <br />
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group.<br />
To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com.<br />
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.<br />

For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en.<br />



--047d7b2edc23c90f5b04d253d583--