On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 1:40 PM, Remo Dentato <= rdentato@gmail.com> wrote:

While I tend to agree with you on this matter, I= would rather see the list completed. I don't mind if the list I put fo= rward for proposal has to be changed entirely but so far nobody cared enoug= h of filjvo or even jvajvo to make a list of them or comment on mine.

Do you have a general rule for jvajvo? Because I couldn't fin= d one.

The only rule that seems universally agreed upon is for {-gau= } where {ko'a rodgau ko'e ko'i ko'o ko'u fo'a} mean= s=A0 {ko'a gasnu lo nu ko'e broda ko'i k'o' ko'u fo= 'a}

You're not suggesting that the same rule applies to {-me= 'a}, right?

remod

The rule for jvajvo is very simple:

rodbo'e =3D brode lo [ka/n= i/nu/du'u] broda, with minor adjustments depending on the actual gismu = involved.
=A0

On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 7:39 PM, J= onathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:

On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Jonathan Jones <ey= eonus@gmail.com> wrote:

On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 7:41 AM, Remo Dentat= o <rdentato@gmail.com> wrote:

On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at= 3:22 PM, Jacob Errington <nictytan@gmail.com> wrote:
You've got it backwards :P It's {rodme'a} -> {mleca fi lo ka broda}. I= n=20 your example, the tertau of the veljvo suddenly became the seltau of the actual meaning; that usually indicates=A0 naljvajvo

Not necessarily. A lujvo means what the lujvo m= aker makes it mean once you define its structure, so it's a matter of a= greeing on the meaning, there's no right or wrong. For {mutce} I use {-= tce} but for {mleca} I prefer {mec-}.

Of course I've no problem with {ro= dme'a} as {ko'a mleca ko'e lo ka broda kei ko'i} but it has= exactly the same sumti places as {mecybo'e} (as defined in my previous= message).

Yes, but he wasn'= ;t talking about lujvo in general, he was talking about jvajvo, which is a = special class of lujvo that follows predictable patterns. mecbo'e does = not follow these predicatble patterns and so are naljvajvo - not regular- w= hereas rodme'a do and are.

And obviously these "easy lu= jvo" should all be jvajvo.
=A0

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