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I had {rodycma} {rodyki'i} {rodycre} {fetybo'e} and {nakybo'e} wrong. Actually I feel the least shouldn't be there, but they were proposed by someone. On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 7:47 PM, MorphemeAddict wrote: > Some of the forms listed at the link aren't valid; they're missing > y-hyphens. > > stevo > > On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 11:24 AM, Remo Dentato wrote: > >> .i zoi urli >> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AomR512Z1i8MdFBRZnFPZml4TnNZZGpPdTNkQlVoSncurli >> >> .i doi la .aleks. mi .a'o gleki lo du'u do ba te pinka lo liste be lo'i >> filjvo >> >> mu'o >> >> >> On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 4:59 PM, Alex Rozenshteyn wrote: >> >>> ta'o cu'i doi .remod. mi pu ca'o sisku tu'a lo liste be lo frile lujvo >>> .i ma urli >>> {Hey Remod, I've been looking for the easy lujvo list; what's the url?} >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 9:41 AM, Remo Dentato wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 3:22 PM, Jacob Errington wrote: >>>> You've got it backwards :P It's {rodme'a} -> {mleca fi lo ka broda}. In >>>> your example, the tertau of the veljvo suddenly became the seltau of the >>>> actual meaning; that usually indicates naljvajvo >>>> >>>> >>>> Not necessarily. A lujvo means what the lujvo maker makes it mean once >>>> you define its structure, so it's a matter of agreeing on the meaning, >>>> there's no right or wrong. For {mutce} I use {-tce} but for {mleca} I >>>> prefer {mec-}. >>>> >>>> Of course I've no problem with {rodme'a} as {ko'a mleca ko'e lo ka >>>> broda kei ko'i} but it has exactly the same sumti places as {mecybo'e} (as >>>> defined in my previous message). >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Alex R >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Lojban Beginners" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. 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Thanks. I had {rodycma} {rodyki'i} {rodycre} {fet= ybo'e} and {nakybo'e} wrong.

Actually I feel the least= shouldn't be there, but they were proposed by someone.




On Wed, Jan 2= , 2013 at 7:47 PM, MorphemeAddict <lytlesw@gmail.com> wrote:=
Some of the forms listed at the link aren't valid; they're missing = y-hyphens.=A0

stevo

On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 11:24 A= M, Remo Dentato <rdentato@gmail.com> wrote:
.i=A0 zoi urli https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/= ccc?key=3D0AomR512Z1i8MdFBRZnFPZml4TnNZZGpPdTNkQlVoSnc urli

.i doi la .aleks. mi .a'o gleki lo du'u do ba te pinka lo liste= be lo'i filjvo

mu'o


On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 4:59 PM, Alex Rozenshteyn <rpglover64@gmail.com<= /a>> wrote:
ta'o cu'i doi = .remod. mi pu ca'o sisku tu'a lo liste be lo frile lujvo .i ma urli=
{Hey Remod, I've been looking for the easy lujvo list; what's= the url?}



On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at= 3:22 PM, Jacob Errington <nictytan@gmail.com> wrote:
You've got it backwards :P It's {rodme'a} -> {mleca fi lo ka broda}. I= n=20 your example, the tertau of the veljvo suddenly became the seltau of the actual meaning; that usually indicates=A0 naljvajvo


Not necessarily. A lujvo means what the lujvo m= aker makes it mean once you define its structure, so it's a matter of a= greeing on the meaning, there's no right or wrong. For {mutce} I use {-= tce} but for {mleca} I prefer {mec-}.

Of course I've no problem with {ro= dme'a} as {ko'a mleca ko'e lo ka broda kei ko'i} but it has= exactly the same sumti places as {mecybo'e} (as defined in my previous= message).


<= br>


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