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Good. Since it seems that my list isn't good enough (not even to be
commented on), would you care making one?

 I'd like to make a cheat sheet and post it in the wiki as I did for the
"periodic table of pro-sumti and pro-bridi", the attitutude/rethoric cmavo
and the terminology mindmap!

remod


On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 10:26 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Remo Dentato <rdentato@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 9:47 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 1:40 PM, Remo Dentato <rdentato@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> You're not suggesting that the same rule applies to {-me'a}, right?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Basically, yes.
>>>
>>>
>> Ok, but if (following the {-gau} pattern)
>>     {ko'a rodme'a ko'e ko'i ko'o ko'u fo'a}
>> means
>>     {ko'a mleca lo su'u ko'e broda ko'i k'o' ko'u fo'a}
>>
>> I fail to understand how something may be less than an abstraction. The
>> problem is that mleca2 is the term of comparison.
>>
>
> Yes, in the case of rodme'a, it would be {mleca fi lo [ka/ni] broda},
> hence the need for minor adjustments depending on the actual gismu in use.
>
>
>> In the list I made I try to accound for the difference in sumti places.
>> Writing down the gloss in Lojban makes clear how each one shouldbe used
>>
>> Maybe those changes in my list are the "adjustments" you mentioned?
>>
>> remo
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Good. Since it seems that my list isn&#39;t good enough (n=
ot even to be commented on), would you care making one?<br><br>=A0I&#39;d l=
ike to make a cheat sheet and post it in the wiki as I did for the &quot;pe=
riodic table of pro-sumti and pro-bridi&quot;, the attitutude/rethoric cmav=
o and the terminology mindmap!<br>
<br>remod<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_q=
uote">On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 10:26 PM, Jonathan Jones <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt=
;<a href=3D"mailto:eyeonus@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">eyeonus@gmail.com</=
a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div class=3D"im"=
>On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Remo Dentato <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:rdentato@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">rdentato@gmail.com</a>&gt;=
</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote">On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 9:47 PM, Jonathan Jones <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:eyeonus@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">eyeonus@gmail.com</a>=
&gt;</span> wrote:<br>


<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-=
left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class=3D"gmail_quote=
"><div>On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 1:40 PM, Remo Dentato <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:rdentato@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">rdentato@gmail.com</=
a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>


</div><div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.=
8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>You&#39;re not suggesting that the same rule applies =
to {-me&#39;a}, right?<br></div></div></blockquote></div></div><br clear=3D=
"all">Basically, yes.<div><div><br></div></div></blockquote>
</div><br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">Ok, but if (following the =
{-gau} pattern)<br>=A0 =A0=20
{ko&#39;a rodme&#39;a ko&#39;e ko&#39;i ko&#39;o ko&#39;u fo&#39;a}<br>mean=
s<br>=A0=A0=A0 {ko&#39;a mleca lo su&#39;u ko&#39;e=20
broda ko&#39;i k&#39;o&#39; ko&#39;u fo&#39;a} <br><br>I fail to understand=
 how something may be less than an abstraction. The problem is that mleca2 =
is the term of comparison.<br></div></div></blockquote></div><div><br>
Yes, in the case of rodme&#39;a, it would be {mleca fi lo [ka/ni] broda}, h=
ence the need for minor adjustments depending on the actual gismu in use.<b=
r>
=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;borde=
r-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class=3D"im"><div dir=3D"ltr">=
<div class=3D"gmail_extra"></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">In the list I m=
ade I try to accound for the difference in sumti places. Writing down the g=
loss in Lojban makes clear how each one shouldbe used<br>


</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">Maybe=
 those changes in my list are the &quot;adjustments&quot; you mentioned? <b=
r><span><font color=3D"#888888"><br></font></span></div><span><font color=
=3D"#888888"><div class=3D"gmail_extra">

remo<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">
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