Received: from mail-gg0-f192.google.com ([209.85.161.192]:36121) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TqWwy-0002Ok-9h; Wed, 02 Jan 2013 14:38:21 -0800 Received: by mail-gg0-f192.google.com with SMTP id c2sf8739991ggn.29 for ; Wed, 02 Jan 2013 14:38:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:x-received:received-spf:from:to :subject:date:message-id:user-agent:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=5RcjAQzxJ/0FRQXMywoJqOqQkjGIMp8AXbm6F4mSkOg=; b=R4raUctGabRthJIRi0gROdP5nfiWaCM+xNgrJSKTRL5JgWgcZmAN1wMdidGz0OJbbl QS2tGlqPSYBcUjbGizpf7FEAKw4JTDvYlosgMu9srMq5YYG1eF75rIf3AT9LHAZ46x6H QeQpi5eaVbJ6Gk6BHK4bu4HQU8D9HUcReh/xeMoZcKOD2lfyGrVJU82toUq3V+7bkxWt +0TcN36Pdzgwfi+HVxD1twAqq6NNuOvogijksWHwutyW17i0DKpeJ7resE2w/ug6irKX +WvILyBwTX7lrelHoBzw5TZroNpUqBbOLABOS3M5ddvP9d735QyccCTaa59bHw+sKWB7 J+Jg== X-Received: by 10.49.96.196 with SMTP id du4mr7609495qeb.37.1357166289800; Wed, 02 Jan 2013 14:38:09 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.49.74.42 with SMTP id q10ls6729920qev.65.gmail; Wed, 02 Jan 2013 14:38:08 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.236.193.106 with SMTP id j70mr23889552yhn.11.1357166288113; Wed, 02 Jan 2013 14:38:08 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.236.193.106 with SMTP id j70mr23889551yhn.11.1357166288102; Wed, 02 Jan 2013 14:38:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from chausie ([2001:470:8:42:2c0:f0ff:fe3b:b5b5]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id r6si3808883yhc.7.2013.01.02.14.38.08; Wed, 02 Jan 2013 14:38:08 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 2001:470:8:42:2c0:f0ff:fe3b:b5b5 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@bezitopo.org) client-ip=2001:470:8:42:2c0:f0ff:fe3b:b5b5; Received: from caracal.localnet (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C515214E5 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2013 17:38:07 -0500 (EST) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2013 17:38:09 -0500 Message-ID: <1874398.40PG7cv4qj@caracal> User-Agent: KMail/4.8.5 (Linux/3.2.0-34-generic; KDE/4.8.5; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: phma@bezitopo.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 2001:470:8:42:2c0:f0ff:fe3b:b5b5 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@bezitopo.org) smtp.mail=phma@bezitopo.org Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / On Wednesday, January 02, 2013 22:05:10 Remo Dentato wrote: > Ok, but if (following the {-gau} pattern) > {ko'a rodme'a ko'e ko'i ko'o ko'u fo'a} > means > {ko'a mleca lo su'u ko'e broda ko'i k'o' ko'u fo'a} > > I fail to understand how something may be less than an abstraction. The > problem is that mleca2 is the term of comparison. "-me'a" follows the same pattern as "-mau"/"-zma". "ko'a rodme'a ko'e ko'i ko'o ko'u fo'a" means "ko'a mleca ko'e lo ni ce'u broda ko'i ko'o ko'u fo'a". At least I think that's right; I'm not sure where to put lo ve mleca. E.g. "mi nelme'a do lo cakla" means "I like chocolate less than you do." This is not to be confused with "mecnei", e.g. "mi necmei lo cakla lo najnimre" (I like chocolate less than oranges). "neizma" and "zmanei" are their respective antonyms. Pierre -- I believe in Yellow when I'm in Sweden and in Black when I'm in Wales. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en.