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On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 3:54 PM, Remo Dentato <rdentato@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 11:36 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 3:13 PM, Remo Dentato <rdentato@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> You failed to notice that they are not regular at all as three glosses
>>> you wrote are all different.
>>>
>>
>> No I didn't. They are "different" because the -bo'e of each have
>> different amount of sumti places: gasnu has 2, mutce 3, and traji 4.
>>
> Yes, that's what makes them different and what makes them non regular.
>
> First of all, it's not my rule, and second of all, it's not a "so-called"
>> rule, it's an actual rule. It's part of the CLL, in Chapter 12, although
>> I'm not going to bother trying to find the exact section.
>>
>
> I've Chapter 12 in front of me and I cant find it. Instead in section 12.1
> (I bothered looking for it) you can read:
>
> "There are no absolute laws fixing the place structure of a newly created
> lujvo. The
> maker must consider the place structures of all the components of the
> tanru and
> then decide which are still relevant and which can be removed. What is
> said in this
> chapter represents guidelines, presented as one possible standard, not
> necessarily
> complete, and not the only possible standard."
>
> So if we want to make a rule for jvajvo we should at least try to make it
> clear to everyone.
>

 "What is said in this chapter represents guidelines, presented as one
possible standard"

That standard is jvajvo.

-- 
mu'o mi'e .aionys.

.i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )

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<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 3:54 PM, Remo Dentato <sp=
an dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rdentato@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">=
rdentato@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quot=
e" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div=
 class=3D"im">On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 11:36 PM, Jonathan Jones <span dir=3D"=
ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:eyeonus@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">eyeonus@gma=
il.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-=
left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class=3D"gmail_quote=
"><div>On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 3:13 PM, Remo Dentato <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:rdentato@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">rdentato@gmail.com</=
a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-=
left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>You failed to notice that they are not regular at all=
 as three glosses you wrote are all different.</div></div></blockquote></di=
v><div><br>No I didn&#39;t. They are &quot;different&quot; because the -bo&=
#39;e of each have different amount of sumti places: gasnu has 2, mutce 3, =
and traji 4.</div>

</div></blockquote></div><div>Yes, that&#39;s what makes them different and=
 what makes them non regular.<br><br></div><div class=3D"im"><div></div><bl=
ockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-lef=
t:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">

<div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div>First of all, it&#39;s not my rule, and sec=
ond of all, it&#39;s not a &quot;so-called&quot; rule, it&#39;s an actual r=
ule. It&#39;s part of the CLL, in Chapter 12, although I&#39;m not going to=
 bother trying to find the exact section.<br>

</div></div></blockquote><div>=A0</div></div><div>I&#39;ve Chapter 12 in fr=
ont of me and I cant find it. Instead in section 12.1 (I bothered looking f=
or it) you can read:<br><br>&quot;There are no absolute laws fixing the pla=
ce structure of a newly created lujvo. The<br>

maker must consider the place structures of all the components of the tanru=
 and<br>then decide which are still relevant and which can be removed. What=
 is said in this<br>chapter represents guidelines, presented as one possibl=
e standard, not necessarily<br>

complete, and not the only possible standard.&quot;<br></div><div>=A0</div>=
So if we want to make a rule for jvajvo we should at least try to make it c=
lear to everyone.<br></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br>=A0&quot;What =
is said in this chapter represents guidelines, presented as one possible st=
andard&quot;<br>
<br>That standard is jvajvo.<br></div></div><br>-- <br>mu&#39;o mi&#39;e .a=
ionys.<br><br>.i.e&#39;ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi pa=
tfu do zo&#39;o<br>(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )<br>

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