Received: from mail-vc0-f189.google.com ([209.85.220.189]:54244) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TqXy6-0002jY-Eh; Wed, 02 Jan 2013 15:43:40 -0800 Received: by mail-vc0-f189.google.com with SMTP id p16sf9118906vcq.6 for ; Wed, 02 Jan 2013 15:43:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:x-received:received-spf :mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=iB+IuiX/oLcxd2utfHbdOgyvGttaJJUEtsIw7adD4fM=; b=xrsLLi0UnuSci1TjZmIA0Ras9rGHTCQ5y0CxUvbMQr9lcLZqbPBbSkNuyhlmx0DCyb GyurYnxAApMJHnPEjaYgvQZZKHBQfcG8o3MejfGRZeaiUUT7c9ETJv5Wl8n0E3GMe8Cm hDeqRNbV/EWh5L+413hhLSDlB/JLH8xIh9RupHKXWCyOknzUNoNNufcznzurElpBh/Hh +aSBIMkBQ4SJnHLlCAl7S88bKXaLOqfhmvQGdXT+tDUTWXhvwGTUszzfh6ncCJTihOi7 jg+B4hCyQIXX4fUNVvYTjS69NN8qhiOOCtLaMAJD6fFTmD6oroS6Fezyb/j4Wtjco86w aj0g== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:x-received:received-spf :mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=iB+IuiX/oLcxd2utfHbdOgyvGttaJJUEtsIw7adD4fM=; b=uvrdH6BTkQO7qfXSK+CBU7FBrDsebgw+mG6yEs35oOG3Um6DnrSWqvrVbMA7mSQiOO oQpe9GWrf1h7K5W+INnNG8N45PO7TwWfKcRQjprmlCBCdQ8s+HWsqLoNgcEIv7gxXost u4AiWwUEoMbCAPNl0x+ba6rLZgS0cZ67MsEwstuDmXC+0j53IIp6MdNhBzNbQbqQO7aY yyFzPgr8Fhe2CMyYBHYMAdFDvTHbdlMOxN+UWOLSWxtwZ4xCYlLau9wEGjBrwG7jHlyy 2eXrUHGajrOZQ47JBo1QUBkLl6DAj+MY5pl5DDKcMR+LTfz+UMhWlDJ4gSSeddZnvXAq Y2FA== X-Received: by 10.50.154.132 with SMTP id vo4mr15397014igb.7.1357170200910; Wed, 02 Jan 2013 15:43:20 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.13.134 with SMTP id h6ls9468709igc.43.canary; Wed, 02 Jan 2013 15:43:20 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.50.33.236 with SMTP id u12mr41892358igi.2.1357170200508; Wed, 02 Jan 2013 15:43:20 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.50.33.236 with SMTP id u12mr41892357igi.2.1357170200490; Wed, 02 Jan 2013 15:43:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-ob0-f179.google.com (mail-ob0-f179.google.com [209.85.214.179]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id s15si4304022igi.1.2013.01.02.15.43.20 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 02 Jan 2013 15:43:20 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.179 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.179; Received: by mail-ob0-f179.google.com with SMTP id x4so13384325obh.10 for ; Wed, 02 Jan 2013 15:43:20 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.42.97 with SMTP id n1mr37891783obl.91.1357170200353; Wed, 02 Jan 2013 15:43:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.60.178.237 with HTTP; Wed, 2 Jan 2013 15:43:20 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 16:43:20 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.179 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=14dae93998ebb11b0e04d256cf9e X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --14dae93998ebb11b0e04d256cf9e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 4:17 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Remo Dentato wrote: > >> On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 11:59 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote= : >> >>> >>> That standard is jvajvo. >>> >>> >> Perfect! Do you have a link to it? The only page I found on the wiki is >> this: http://www.lojban.org/tiki/seljvajvo >> > > I do not. As I said, I didn't bother looking. All I can tell you is that > it's in Chapter 12, which that page also tells you, and that it is > basically exactly what I told you, albeit not as condensed. > Some part of it is at http://dag.github.com/cll/12/7/: A symmetrical lujvo like =93balsoi=94 (from Section 5) has the places of it= s tertau followed by whatever places of the seltau survive the elimination process. For =93balsoi=94, the surviving places of =93banli=94 are b2 and b= 3, leading to the place structure: 7.4) b1=3Ds1 is a great soldier of army s2 in property b2 by standard b3 > > -- > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o > (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) > --=20 mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! 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On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 4:17 PM, Jonathan Jones <= span dir=3D"ltr"><eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 4:04 PM= , Remo Dentato <rdentato@gmail.com> wrote:
On W= ed, Jan 2, 2013 at 11:59 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:

That standard is jvajvo.

=A0
Perfect! Do you have a link to it? The only page I found = on the wiki is this: http://www.lojban.org/tiki/seljvajvo

I do not. As I said, I didn't b= other looking. All I can tell you is that it's in Chapter 12, which tha= t page also tells you, and that it is basically exactly what I told you, al= beit not as condensed.

Some part of it is at http://dag.github.com/cll/12/7/:
A symmetrical lujvo like =93balsoi=94 (from Section 5) has the places of = its tertau followed by whatever places of the seltau survive the eliminatio= n process. For =93balsoi=94, the surviving places of =93banli=94 are b2 and= b3, leading to the place structure:

7.4) =A0 b1=3Ds1 is a great soldier of army s2 in property b2 by standa= rd b3

=A0

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mu'o mi&= #39;e .aionys.

.i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.lu= k. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. := D )



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mu'o mi= 'e .aionys.

.i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.l= uk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. = :D )

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