Received: from mail-ye0-f192.google.com ([209.85.213.192]:50157) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TrbEd-0003qZ-0E; Sat, 05 Jan 2013 13:25:04 -0800 Received: by mail-ye0-f192.google.com with SMTP id l2sf8460872yen.29 for ; Sat, 05 Jan 2013 13:24:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:x-received:received-spf :mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=VN/btKkRneIPqIB3m+bYSKJng6CjEGW1QlRXNaMTepM=; b=fiiSKxqP05MB6xbVTbuNtY6Sym6zLt2Qa+1T7Wc3ca95lCVi8roqpI1AqfupVUSNLL RRx4DkdGicPmLINNxw0b+0LxKRDnOIIiDdQlWpdu7r8NAYUM7lyRKacnYHhjvX6kDPKq ZClJ1ZlD46tLiOOB1heCYG5t/6X3c4ZaPbx3YqxCZxTyzsxnH5yZYMC31U4guv5a3lLS 6rSaSSRGXIzl5gjU5rFPgH0J1cCtR2aJB5VESPyKbRkT2svft5eutlHJJfrYRSlVSPrT Mh7A4ICbLSG6zCYTrnkLq4+FVMCHHBg2zqJNivKTROAsTlYMJtXk3EgJH+KU1QgZSxsD JlTA== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:x-received:received-spf :mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=VN/btKkRneIPqIB3m+bYSKJng6CjEGW1QlRXNaMTepM=; b=nLLPMRdUs8vBcNodCMMEYzqp85xQfRknE+BxnIHRq8SxrT7Zrn1F6hotyfFZkbTilq 26ctkazPvcZ+THHKY43NZhdP5Fnl1n/CXWliK9Un9Co/dzAZCDUF3qIe8AqXF5EsmvuM 8hkOiuHu/C6ZV1YqodGXdr809fIPjYQAa0CVWhl2O0P57V75LT3ouXCZxMQ9wRlyegYw 7lt3aaSiUcQw3RMRmkycVLEvTWws5rkSqJbaM53rESJ8tnlHF4S3hDT8/BOAPXEdCyRu aGGE14C7lt6BHWco+wqphhdyW68LiOCLTLDu+RkscbagFyqec867RJ3FEp/2Qu14sRuA Ypjg== X-Received: by 10.49.39.99 with SMTP id o3mr9480357qek.14.1357421088348; Sat, 05 Jan 2013 13:24:48 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.49.127.142 with SMTP id ng14ls8606025qeb.61.gmail; Sat, 05 Jan 2013 13:24:47 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.58.238.232 with SMTP id vn8mr27175780vec.26.1357421087064; Sat, 05 Jan 2013 13:24:47 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.58.238.232 with SMTP id vn8mr27175779vec.26.1357421087048; Sat, 05 Jan 2013 13:24:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-vb0-f41.google.com (mail-vb0-f41.google.com [209.85.212.41]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id u2si9203662vdi.2.2013.01.05.13.24.46 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 05 Jan 2013 13:24:47 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.41 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.212.41; Received: by mail-vb0-f41.google.com with SMTP id l22so17585827vbn.14 for ; Sat, 05 Jan 2013 13:24:46 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.59.13.197 with SMTP id fa5mr81856976ved.47.1357421086800; Sat, 05 Jan 2013 13:24:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.220.196.89 with HTTP; Sat, 5 Jan 2013 13:24:46 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20130105205444.GN32434@samsa.fritz.box> References: <20121231121501.GC32434@samsa.fritz.box> <4573904.8UCHyJ1U0S@caracal> <20130105205444.GN32434@samsa.fritz.box> Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2013 14:24:46 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] APE (Audience Participation Exercise): Lojbanic words of wisdom From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.41 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0118499cb07cbd04d29139f0 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --089e0118499cb07cbd04d29139f0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Michael Goerner wrote: > On Sat, Jan 05, 2013 at 01:07:11PM -0700, Jonathan Jones wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 12:42 PM, Jacob Errington > wrote: > > > > > lo milxe be lo ni jai jursa cu mutce lo ni je'a prije > > > > > > na jimpe lo smuni la'edi'u > > mi jinvi lodu'u fanva di'u fu zoi gy. > The one who is gentle with the harsh ones is very wise, indeed. > .gy > [I think the translation is is ...] > Well, literally, it's "A mild in harshness thing is extreme in amount of wisdom". Your translation doesn't seem to me to fit with that. As I said, it's the meaning I don't understand, not the words. > .ui mi nelci > > > mi'e la .van. mu'o > -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. --089e0118499cb07cbd04d29139f0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Michael Goerner = <mgoerner@uni-osnabrueck.de> wrote:
On Sat, Jan 05, 2013 at 01:07:11PM -0700, Jonathan Jones = wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 12:42 PM, Jacob Errington <nictytan@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > lo milxe be lo ni jai jursa cu mutce lo ni je'a prije
>
>
> na jimpe lo smuni la'edi'u

mi jinvi lodu'u fanva di'u fu zoi gy.
The one who is gentle with the harsh ones is very wise, indeed.
.gy
[I think the translation is is ...]

Well, literall= y, it's "A mild in harshness thing is extreme in amount of wisdom&= quot;.

Your translation doesn't seem to me to fit with that.

As I said, it's the meaning I don't understand, not the words.<= br>=A0
.ui mi nelci


mi'e la .van. mu'o



--
mu'o mi= 'e .aionys.

.i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.l= uk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. = :D )

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