Received: from mail-la0-f62.google.com ([209.85.215.62]:36281) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Trbg3-0003uN-KN; Sat, 05 Jan 2013 13:53:23 -0800 Received: by mail-la0-f62.google.com with SMTP id em20sf4186710lab.27 for ; Sat, 05 Jan 2013 13:53:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:x-received:received-spf :mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=LEurQRVHu6W2UkARE8Ep76PgmN8oNeoW84nnjCMc9Yo=; b=apSD8ap6P8Ky86U8nWmrMPtvgW+SeDa8xeHWMVWabCvVUl3ZakV4fF6qiRUUnCcCJ2 wpcHDE3KKGTWvuWwpz2hkwR35/6r8SuzStt6vymRwwjoLNDybW6kzQ+ZaErq7YWGPDKr U/c91gYgV/IGqqSueVWDwpZ7T0ZlG28UIq6UefX6tPm3nKtCrJ2HadBaeSYVXWWr0K3x WP1cHIGfYVhBIOMQAcjPGgIIIJLXuz/iT+6o3vIfV3ACxXCDkYXX6Nm8AZI93ffd2eNL pWe7/MAxrIrTc1gIUQP+4zqlkRoJT6MfEemlaVrqmTHiUG7bwU0ZvWZQoG2UWGc1V9H+ 0yHw== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:x-received:received-spf :mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=LEurQRVHu6W2UkARE8Ep76PgmN8oNeoW84nnjCMc9Yo=; b=RUXxvXEptXSW1P6MU+5F+BRNQHWQGMtuTcFTBec1OpGdHv2e1ZOEWTcvSkqm/FSAsr nFt0VuNKY7G+pldPRs44yxAw8uKOEVVTTVqKExCELHoI3KU37rdVb+cHIRRi80m54TcK InhJ1DHVfvFqCINDZ7yrheYiRUIk/KY7LPHYZOJ70sXhW8WuW6MUY5IsdG9ixfOTH6wH 7i/fg9qhsrRVHN/HbzIBhE4/OyRTD85GzEKN70BRxcA+59bFAHG59MOMXFGvLx6Sq9Vs TguHj7u/VQihdm2HJS6qjczdBz2Z0C+sH8XXo12+L3Fbrz9ktjzGlrt4il2/5Rcn1a+7 Gyuw== X-Received: by 10.180.19.73 with SMTP id c9mr431511wie.1.1357422787387; Sat, 05 Jan 2013 13:53:07 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.180.100.70 with SMTP id ew6ls403137wib.23.gmail; Sat, 05 Jan 2013 13:53:06 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.204.130.141 with SMTP id t13mr2071309bks.3.1357422786421; Sat, 05 Jan 2013 13:53:06 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.204.130.141 with SMTP id t13mr2071308bks.3.1357422786383; Sat, 05 Jan 2013 13:53:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-la0-f43.google.com (mail-la0-f43.google.com [209.85.215.43]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e21si4035886bkv.2.2013.01.05.13.53.06 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 05 Jan 2013 13:53:06 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of nictytan@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.43 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.215.43; Received: by mail-la0-f43.google.com with SMTP id eg20so11905995lab.2 for ; Sat, 05 Jan 2013 13:53:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.152.110.18 with SMTP id hw18mr54123633lab.22.1357422786178; Sat, 05 Jan 2013 13:53:06 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.67.39 with HTTP; Sat, 5 Jan 2013 13:52:46 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20121231121501.GC32434@samsa.fritz.box> <4573904.8UCHyJ1U0S@caracal> <20130105205444.GN32434@samsa.fritz.box> From: Jacob Errington Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2013 16:52:46 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] APE (Audience Participation Exercise): Lojbanic words of wisdom To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: nictytan@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of nictytan@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.43 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=nictytan@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec54d4de8faecd404d2919ed9 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --bcaec54d4de8faecd404d2919ed9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 "One who isn't very harsh is very wise indeed." On 5 January 2013 16:24, Jonathan Jones wrote: > On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Michael Goerner < > mgoerner@uni-osnabrueck.de> wrote: > >> On Sat, Jan 05, 2013 at 01:07:11PM -0700, Jonathan Jones wrote: >> > On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 12:42 PM, Jacob Errington >> wrote: >> > >> > > lo milxe be lo ni jai jursa cu mutce lo ni je'a prije >> > >> > >> > na jimpe lo smuni la'edi'u >> >> mi jinvi lodu'u fanva di'u fu zoi gy. >> The one who is gentle with the harsh ones is very wise, indeed. >> .gy >> [I think the translation is is ...] >> > > Well, literally, it's "A mild in harshness thing is extreme in amount of > wisdom". > > Your translation doesn't seem to me to fit with that. > > As I said, it's the meaning I don't understand, not the words. > > >> .ui mi nelci >> >> >> mi'e la .van. mu'o >> > > > > -- > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o > (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. --bcaec54d4de8faecd404d2919ed9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "One who isn't very harsh is very wise indeed."

On 5 January 2013 16:24, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmai= l.com> wrote:
On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Michael Goerner &= lt;mgoerner= @uni-osnabrueck.de> wrote:
On Sat, Jan 05, 2013 at 01:07:11PM -0700, Jonathan Jones wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 12:42 PM, Jacob Errington <nictytan@gmail.com> wrote: >
> > lo milxe be lo ni jai jursa cu mutce lo ni je'a prije
>
>
> na jimpe lo smuni la'edi'u

mi jinvi lodu'u fanva di'u fu zoi gy.
The one who is gentle with the harsh ones is very wise, indeed.
.gy
[I think the translation is is ...]

We= ll, literally, it's "A mild in harshness thing is extreme in amoun= t of wisdom".

Your translation doesn't seem to me to fit wi= th that.

As I said, it's the meaning I don't understand, not the words.<= br>=A0
.ui mi nelci


mi'e la .van. mu'o



--
mu'o mi'e .aionys.

.i.e&#= 39;ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
(= Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )

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