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On 31 December 2012 08:34, Pierre Abbat <phma@bezitopo.org> wrote:
> On Monday, December 31, 2012 01:43:07 la gleki wrote:
>> This question appeared in the russian casnu stuzi.
>>
>> What can be better than eternal love? Nothing.
>> Sandwich is better than nothing.
>> Therefore, sandwich is better than eternal love.
>>
>> How can we disprove this statement in lojban?

Reification of quantifier expressions is an old fallacy:
http://dag.github.com/cll/16/1/

Here, I believe that in addition to this we also have an issue of
implicit abstraction and scope.
  {no da xagmau lo du'u vitno lo ka se prami}   ( ~ {no da xagmau lo
du'u ze'eba se prami})
  {lo du'u citka su'o snuji cu xagmau lo du'u citka no da}

I guess this is what makes the different "nothing"s appear to have
different translations.

>
> The translation of "nothing" is different.
>
> ma xagmau lo vitno nunprami? noda
> .i lo snuji cu xagmau lo nomei
>

I see there has been some argument about the logicality of {lo nomei}.
I think this expression
is at least non-standard. If mi citka lo nomei, is it true that mi citka?

mu'o
mi'e .asiz.

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