Received: from mail-qa0-f64.google.com ([209.85.216.64]:56097) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TswlX-0007cS-8Q; Wed, 09 Jan 2013 06:36:35 -0800 Received: by mail-qa0-f64.google.com with SMTP id i13sf630652qae.19 for ; Wed, 09 Jan 2013 06:36:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:x-received:received-spf :mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=cv0ujsQuH1NR+3GUBLFTO1E1doVGTQXc6DABAoGxw2k=; b=GGtn1FIZPlQeOSbPnRBuC5VhX2ufWa5QqIprWsEK6Wps89Zaoz+bzcj6KjtO8ZlR65 FpmKMQtAJ52xsw8KMkxgLVeLj/GSJloZ0q14oq7WzbwFFwtBALqhYvSC6NK0SVZQk6Yo Pryja5YcwNZVrZdGy/1crq4yGJgZRfk01EyScsaNtxpkmRgUwmZDMv+MEspVDxlnIbjp 9E69rYsTXP87zYUMShvpC/5legPTzOCJIaY2pctaek+hIqXvThpALghTIuYdYfeICkhQ 2hPf/6PNVp52VNfsHmVyS7ssJjwSJsks2D7Sz3ZJEMwQ713HfoCP096hPrZqabQCKcci 16fQ== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:x-received:received-spf :mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=cv0ujsQuH1NR+3GUBLFTO1E1doVGTQXc6DABAoGxw2k=; b=P6QFPHc7K/OwQpAbl9fx5h/br02grEj++fvg/oWUaqIjY07OsxKVQH+kcyAZrxd5I9 OKGM9pFltnKb2u2+jyqrhDBGJFt83t6NVMnUL4qsF3G48NiZdXMTeMNhadlu283O8yT8 RIXSU1yS2ps9NjR8BT15Bti9zUoN17qZXKsqGoiQsTaOwJ5pDk0Fqi3CthsJBjoLYTCy N1Z2x9qx/v+YSxGDOhYvhJbRE0hURuNzL9uKmskiJLWIwSB+1TltdimK8+bSGluu10Xj +YFfWF/dvYuY+JpPUo3rRRXwJdS6MSr9ugdZVkQyLlqnZxOlVuP/FUUcPUtXF4SqUY+O Wb8A== X-Received: by 10.50.135.66 with SMTP id pq2mr490950igb.3.1357742179877; Wed, 09 Jan 2013 06:36:19 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.212.39 with SMTP id nh7ls1308773igc.8.gmail; Wed, 09 Jan 2013 06:36:19 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.50.34.164 with SMTP id a4mr1513203igj.7.1357742179355; Wed, 09 Jan 2013 06:36:19 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.50.34.164 with SMTP id a4mr1513202igj.7.1357742179347; Wed, 09 Jan 2013 06:36:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-oa0-f44.google.com (mail-oa0-f44.google.com [209.85.219.44]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id dx8si379607igc.1.2013.01.09.06.36.19 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 09 Jan 2013 06:36:19 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of nictytan@gmail.com designates 209.85.219.44 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.219.44; Received: by mail-oa0-f44.google.com with SMTP id n5so1054182oag.17 for ; Wed, 09 Jan 2013 06:36:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.60.4.35 with SMTP id h3mr39760682oeh.123.1357742179219; Wed, 09 Jan 2013 06:36:19 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.149.41 with HTTP; Wed, 9 Jan 2013 06:35:59 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Jacob Errington Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2013 09:35:59 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: APE: Lojban haiku To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: nictytan@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of nictytan@gmail.com designates 209.85.219.44 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=nictytan@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / .i la manti cu cusku di'e > Also; another haiku. > > lo pa karce cu > se na'e frili citka > lo mlatu vau .ia {se} only modifies the first thing on the right that constitutes a valid selbri, which would be {na'e frili}. Thus, your haiku accidentally means "Cars eat cats uneasily, I believe," which is even funnier :) To fix this, you'd need to move the {se} directly before {citka}. If meter weren't important, you could use a {ke} bracket like this to make {se} scope over the whole tanru: {se ke na'e frili citka}. .i mi'e la tsani mu'o -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en.