Received: from mail-qc0-f189.google.com ([209.85.216.189]:49659) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Tsxum-0000Gt-1S; Wed, 09 Jan 2013 07:50:08 -0800 Received: by mail-qc0-f189.google.com with SMTP id c11sf1186971qca.26 for ; Wed, 09 Jan 2013 07:49:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:date:from:to:message-id :in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:x-original-sender :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=9/ousj9A1DX836D+SFdsTij18oO1fRmW53JFuyLGKzI=; b=F5XfnQ63CCI8W9nVtiJl5s3lei1CWo4VXu5tEaUb9I8GGTe/Tzb4h1RKBFYgNc6sBV GmTapEqqCKsFFulXc9dvBSR3lgWmAhd6kq5JfO5VD8I0Y9rUIM6adoZp/7v2ZiNsklmv JDettIPt8AvEn0117ur6R/fkQpZTA8ZGZy0Om8GLj6tqmGT1Ys/dlDMKmaNVCx4kuJWM rNvFCfllyB8AtQfJvE2Dxya94/mcytCW5dFGFMSEHa5B4w1dljhJMcG2JUfxEdZCS3vJ 5AWsznz788GZczziOc9Gg4zl5iBabVf22Y1mlf6s/z2dGGFeS/ZYoUq2D0DqFbzGif8J O8yA== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:date:from:to:message-id :in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:x-original-sender :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=9/ousj9A1DX836D+SFdsTij18oO1fRmW53JFuyLGKzI=; b=AEwiTmRQIndhPnBusKCJ5k89/GUcF232D5S876z0QGZXh1u603pd5s3Li82vrvLArs VK+zCJaBU53J2xdxPBFEmCp+SoKy9NIV5CB/gF4+Rb2f78xjE+S9xqnpc6ce1kYVN9tJ tWbuszzxsbx/UeSMyQPzZZ12McFBWEh/DX5GfRl7KzglXvSrrdYQHdfIugV61LAjfS2S oaqOfUufQhqX/w0c8NZuewXgdq6Co8j8BAYE5TBX3SUqf7rvBc7HH3g02qweEnS9PKmf 69YwXUIy+4xqjJQPK3TbmsAD0Kj6au2nUU5xMydxpNnLUxeEh/VlZTVB7Ev2KPilB7MT +dLw== X-Received: by 10.50.196.135 with SMTP id im7mr634179igc.1.1357746595987; Wed, 09 Jan 2013 07:49:55 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.104.199 with SMTP id gg7ls3831441igb.34.canary; Wed, 09 Jan 2013 07:49:55 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.50.7.198 with SMTP id l6mr632815iga.3.1357746595338; Wed, 09 Jan 2013 07:49:55 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2013 07:49:54 -0800 (PST) From: manti To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Message-Id: <067776de-4a23-4971-accb-e5e63fd2b72d@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: APE: Lojban haiku MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: wakkawalross@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1138_945889.1357746594826" X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / ------=_Part_1138_945889.1357746594826 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Wednesday, January 9, 2013 8:35:59 AM UTC-6, tsani wrote: > > .i la manti cu cusku di'e > > Also; another haiku. > > > > lo pa karce cu > > se na'e frili citka > > lo mlatu vau .ia > > {se} only modifies the first thing on the right that constitutes a > valid selbri, which would be {na'e frili}. Thus, your haiku > accidentally means "Cars eat cats uneasily, I believe," which is even > funnier :) To fix this, you'd need to move the {se} directly before > {citka}. If meter weren't important, you could use a {ke} bracket like > this to make {se} scope over the whole tanru: {se ke na'e frili > citka}. > > .i mi'e la tsani mu'o > mi lo nu ciska dei cu bilga lo su'u cilre fi la .lojban. .i ki'e la tsani ku ciksi lo selvla be zo se .i mi na'e djuno zo'e zo se What I attempted to say: I felt as though I should write this is Lojban for practice. Thank you Tsani for pointing out the way se works. I had no idea it worked like that. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban-beginners/-/efcj9VxBvlQJ. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. ------=_Part_1138_945889.1357746594826 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wednesday, January 9, 2013 8:35:59 AM UTC-6, tsani wrote:
.i la manti cu cusku di'e
> Also; another haiku.
>
> lo pa karce cu
> se na'e frili citka
> lo mlatu vau .ia

{se} only modifies the first thing on the right that constitutes a
valid selbri, which would be {na'e frili}. Thus, your haiku
accidentally means "Cars eat cats uneasily, I believe," which is even
funnier :) To fix this, you'd need to move the {se} directly before
{citka}. If meter weren't important, you could use a {ke} bracket like
this to make {se} scope over the whole tanru: {se ke na'e frili
citka}.

.i mi'e la tsani mu'o

mi lo nu ciska dei cu bilga lo su'u cilre fi la .= lojban.
.i ki'e la tsani ku ciksi lo selvla be zo se
.i mi na'e djuno= zo'e zo se

What I attempted to say:

I felt as though I shoul= d write this is Lojban for practice.
Thank you Tsani for pointing out th= e way se works.
I had no idea it worked like that.

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