Received: from mail-vc0-f187.google.com ([209.85.220.187]:34866) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TtPyn-0001zT-Gu; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 13:48:16 -0800 Received: by mail-vc0-f187.google.com with SMTP id m8sf576167vcd.24 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 13:47:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:x-received:received-spf :mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=Ln9tC7XT4VeQTm7mCjejPkvTmcu+BeGBnsm8XnhY3ks=; b=fcDQXD+j1gWle4OL79V8W0mz1aamsKK13eyrhduDN/L0k71Ok2lkH9Y2SI4KDa1WvQ BZhVW0Q15oF4fYrHtX8g0LTDWWoXeENqri6G8Ip3aRw2HTOapGJX/EQmxm9uhE9JHvps 11a1fdOAEeqIdKS9ilZeiu8NzylW+ieNrQLk1On9U3Sw+ylx0kp1kUvoKBJkLUlFLsfn Q2zzScd1EPUqZ1rk+kWX+u+tn5F7UW4P8Q/vT7jwClV78CMcAaUL+a0DYrOKd6zdqolx oMQtOJvVjvP1pe4Uz/UEgxH/emFf1DTNPYud9p31EuXiJ3A12+EVX3OJB7Ri+dF2LiOc 0wgQ== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:x-received:received-spf :mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=Ln9tC7XT4VeQTm7mCjejPkvTmcu+BeGBnsm8XnhY3ks=; b=bUr/k3XpcBa0rvEWEbX57LOP0oYXBklS+hfKXCK6NlkASKf2939Y87hZavC3vVq2Kb ZkXVeaa0s8l5lgxxts50zbgepkJJjNzsI0KD2Bn43yoEewXxMSVCj6bDYF0G50FqU0tA UGc8CPpdEEgdLsit7IOOf1d6hbF/g36V26F7Nr9G9iDCrIKYxwJfFJxCdB/vHWcYQhSi bUM2mduPGpLTF9vM1RPfOcwuRVLQzELxUrLuretThDFKGYu0pVIvaWH4iBaYWp+nyOZt YGrlmjiiuuf5mYnUV4tzQ/RY7o3xbaZOmrazpYzFvVoGCQri/hNk9lRKcY8rThdLFn+y Ha2A== X-Received: by 10.50.56.132 with SMTP id a4mr2806982igq.9.1357854478642; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 13:47:58 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.40.227 with SMTP id a3ls5190417igl.20.canary; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 13:47:57 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.43.62.145 with SMTP id xa17mr46805330icb.22.1357854477287; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 13:47:57 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.43.62.145 with SMTP id xa17mr46805325icb.22.1357854477267; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 13:47:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-oa0-f46.google.com (mail-oa0-f46.google.com [209.85.219.46]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ge7si333934igb.0.2013.01.10.13.47.57 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 10 Jan 2013 13:47:57 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.219.46 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.219.46; Received: by mail-oa0-f46.google.com with SMTP id h16so1138956oag.19 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 13:47:57 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.19.133 with SMTP id f5mr44204220oee.105.1357854476993; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 13:47:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.182.186.98 with HTTP; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 13:47:56 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <50EF3598.4010107@plasmatix.com> References: <50EF3598.4010107@plasmatix.com> Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 16:47:56 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] A string that ends with X From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: mturniansky@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.219.46 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mturniansky@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8ff1c258c203ba04d2f621f3 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --e89a8ff1c258c203ba04d2f621f3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 But since Cosby is concerned with your voice carry, selpa'i, a vowel sound IS what is intended, not the vowel letter. You can name them Margot,for example... --gejyspa On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 4:41 PM, selpa'i wrote: > la mudri cu cusku di'e > > I'm trying to translate this Bill Cosby quote: "Always end the name of >> your child with a vowel, so that when you yell the name will carry.". >> > > I'd say: > > ko ro roi tercme lo do panzi da poi lo karsnale'u cu ro moi lo ke'a lerfu > .i se va'o bo lo cmene ca lo nu se krixa cu xamgu se tirna > > "Always call your child something which has a vowel letter as its last > letter. Then, when you yell it, the name will be better heard." > > Or, in a more relaxed style: > > ko ro roi selfamgau lo cmene pe lo do panzi lu'e lo karsna > "Always have the name of your child end with a vowel." > > The techcicality here is that a string of letters or a word does not end > with a sound, it ends with a letter representing that sound. One can choose > to ignore this (remove the lu'e) or not (keep the lu'e). > > mu'o mi'e la selpa'i > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.**com > . > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@**googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** > group/lojban-beginners?hl=en > . > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. --e89a8ff1c258c203ba04d2f621f3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
=A0 But since Cosby is concerned with your voice carry, se= lpa'i, a vowel sound IS what is intended, not the vowel letter. =A0You = can name them Margot,for example... =A0
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On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 4:41 PM, selpa'i= <m3o@plasmatix.com> wrote:

I'm trying to translate this Bill Cosby quote: "Always end the nam= e of
your child with a vowel, so that when you yell the name will carry.".<= br>

I'd say:

ko ro roi tercme lo do panzi da poi lo karsnale'u cu ro moi lo ke'a= lerfu .i se va'o bo lo cmene ca lo nu se krixa cu xamgu se tirna

"Always call your child something which has a vowel letter as its last= letter. Then, when you yell it, the name will be better heard."

Or, in a more relaxed style:

ko ro roi selfamgau lo cmene pe lo do panzi lu'e lo karsna
"Always have the name of your child end with a vowel."

The techcicality here is that a string of letters or a word does not end wi= th a sound, it ends with a letter representing that sound. One can choose t= o ignore this (remove the lu'e) or not (keep the lu'e).

mu'o mi'e la selpa'i


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