Received: from mail-da0-f60.google.com ([209.85.210.60]:34943) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TtQ30-00021g-RU; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 13:52:36 -0800 Received: by mail-da0-f60.google.com with SMTP id t1sf568518dae.25 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 13:52:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:date:from:to:message-id :in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:x-original-sender :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=TsFvonidu2+laf2XzxUYxE9iIZYKoJySzFVh6xaJpdU=; b=tSTlo9Pe6f3VD5qVvq1gdueFcyxZDSzLXQ8qm2Y0yAUhjuZiZIySZQjG4roS4eRilG IeMNiWq2FCjxrXbatV86sbGa7C1lebdA93A/2pZd+ThbrvrH1v7lTEzgy/OuuRw7fLn4 N62gsyF2KDr5pavfbYaQlorLMeGpEbhcqOhGBfJE3z9tFPTLxCiW6XCMUau6bW65p5ia HQQF1RiV/lGLp7kJ0gFoIbCb46+hw6CE90Du0zUdSREZrpEvBKjut16KsWW2mqw6yJTG p8ogFaTSeULwpfp3NNp7uV1/SGFXDKH0kUkuG15J0UThpXsZVSAS3dpwzvy/hul7cHF4 mzdQ== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:date:from:to:message-id :in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:x-original-sender :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=TsFvonidu2+laf2XzxUYxE9iIZYKoJySzFVh6xaJpdU=; b=NkbbDv+heI80v6gbyicF83VN1KmPvJBsl935YV2kS7Tn1VS4nrby06RYLFg+22fezS G+Xcgyw8uuJV+RqXy/i2uCQJ124tNI+UVJoQiwYeyTqa30PasZ3xUuAyLeWP/ILDnLtO XtLbYcUEkKjWamUrrfmgie6P6+2ImTq4AZmiz/fUnlajC0+AUCxw8/SPQzrZSp9W+XyX UCTFoEbnzZ5Fswy+C1um778gPGaBXXnvy1C2V5GigiWzwsPkm54xLIh7TChih37I1rDX K78EL3IbQMYhlhZ3t7ATOAKbeEYsg4Hp7UJZPRxWDDSsPM7FyhsRp/5MaMvhiv6TJy4b /hIQ== X-Received: by 10.49.84.167 with SMTP id a7mr13176049qez.11.1357854740455; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 13:52:20 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.49.81.100 with SMTP id z4ls1802477qex.4.gmail; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 13:52:19 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.49.116.1 with SMTP id js1mr13599633qeb.19.1357854739102; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 13:52:19 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 13:52:17 -0800 (PST) From: mudri To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Message-Id: <05403445-3995-4519-8917-eb478b5c2254@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <50EF3598.4010107@plasmatix.com> References: <50EF3598.4010107@plasmatix.com> Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] A string that ends with X MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: jammyatjammy@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_85_9377481.1357854737630" X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / ------=_Part_85_9377481.1357854737630 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I like this solution for its ability to be generalised (e.g. if you wanted to talk about the second letter). Does quoted text intrinsically have sound anyway? I'd rather talk about the sound (for the reason Michael Turniansky has just given). On Thursday, 10 January 2013 21:41:44 UTC, selpa'i wrote: > > la mudri cu cusku di'e > > I'm trying to translate this Bill Cosby quote: "Always end the name of > > your child with a vowel, so that when you yell the name will carry.". > > I'd say: > > ko ro roi tercme lo do panzi da poi lo karsnale'u cu ro moi lo ke'a > lerfu .i se va'o bo lo cmene ca lo nu se krixa cu xamgu se tirna > > "Always call your child something which has a vowel letter as its last > letter. Then, when you yell it, the name will be better heard." > > Or, in a more relaxed style: > > ko ro roi selfamgau lo cmene pe lo do panzi lu'e lo karsna > "Always have the name of your child end with a vowel." > > The techcicality here is that a string of letters or a word does not end > with a sound, it ends with a letter representing that sound. One can > choose to ignore this (remove the lu'e) or not (keep the lu'e). > > mu'o mi'e la selpa'i > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban-beginners/-/_6fnr3spiMkJ. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. ------=_Part_85_9377481.1357854737630 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I like this solution for its ability to be generalised (e.g. if you wanted = to talk about the second letter).

Does quoted text intri= nsically have sound anyway? I'd rather talk about the sound (for the reason= Michael Turniansky has just given).

On Thursday, 10 January 2013 21= :41:44 UTC, selpa'i wrote:
la = mudri cu cusku di'e
> I'm trying to translate this Bill Cosby quote: "Always end the nam= e of
> your child with a vowel, so that when you yell the name will carry= .".

I'd say:

ko ro roi tercme lo do panzi da poi lo karsnale'u cu ro moi lo ke'a=20
lerfu .i se va'o bo lo cmene ca lo nu se krixa cu xamgu se tirna

"Always call your child something which has a vowel letter as its last= =20
letter. Then, when you yell it, the name will be better heard."

Or, in a more relaxed style:

ko ro roi selfamgau lo cmene pe lo do panzi lu'e lo karsna
"Always have the name of your child end with a vowel."

The techcicality here is that a string of letters or a word does not en= d=20
with a sound, it ends with a letter representing that sound. One can=20
choose to ignore this (remove the lu'e) or not (keep the lu'e).

mu'o mi'e la selpa'i

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