Received: from mail-ye0-f189.google.com ([209.85.213.189]:64389) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TwEMD-0003O0-Rl; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 08:00:00 -0800 Received: by mail-ye0-f189.google.com with SMTP id r9sf1969294yen.26 for ; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 07:59:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:date:from:to:message-id:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=HDIHzq7ej1jfiZghlb8THDTUPvNf1tv+rJthOrF/lmk=; b=RXlMNeAg81hJ4uCdTWzpZmqoJRDBOXvFGnLhDchE9m9PlRhd396aoo2cOIqe1BYQT6 /CD+1Snypbk59L3Z0BDySQb1RhRVenk2pf1+oK1jDh9APV8jdcAMMwIyGpI2NA4SFPsv wvS74r2DUzCSkhzwtyPBRauRLRuktBnzuHIL0PrNdXGueINftys+tkBsVWRQhkEjvFGb YesdjRXyk1OexODhoC0ZnpZysEVcRjPKRFW6CUo00cKOA7QmIKMPuo23bCFrghiCnPES pbm8AQQu1mflM+EG74L1GkzSXAFI396RO1y+BbULy/rjdEmPj9LmX0b3P/HUCSJCN4l3 K0AA== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:date:from:to:message-id:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=HDIHzq7ej1jfiZghlb8THDTUPvNf1tv+rJthOrF/lmk=; b=zUtj/fohEgezQcFPlfVpeBjejrQkqMhZT0PDy8yHPhWDk02Cth5AO4/QqDt4ztQxVo LAgA8MRbvuLpIdt2Nv3sWA3AQz79NcxKgcDcoIZiWJIFJSsoLcf1TD/Qx0W714/5T7tx DbePuMHjoJZ6JQS0AylsGjrXCmytKfTpMZD0FTZiJPtniKzvODBMV5L3c4H2tOeJJPjW tZcWUe/kMUHZAeHzjoRyBDqjMGDF4cgs0qt2BytYp3H+OI89LgGRL534Aw9wqSRY+v8+ ubaP4294G/hcxFdDsIPH35kZGhXjCLux3VwgbyH2Mtlkpv2vp/+cC7kYemLhOVsp8l1O gonQ== X-Received: by 10.49.15.38 with SMTP id u6mr2187186qec.8.1358524786357; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 07:59:46 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.49.106.164 with SMTP id gv4ls2366607qeb.35.gmail; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 07:59:45 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.49.62.164 with SMTP id z4mr2153609qer.34.1358524785028; Fri, 18 Jan 2013 07:59:45 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 07:59:44 -0800 (PST) From: mudri To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Message-Id: <635fc3ba-9321-4f2a-9187-be3c0edce944@googlegroups.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Relative phrases &c on {la} sumti MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: jammyatjammy@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_112_9863292.1358524784505" X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / ------=_Part_112_9863292.1358524784505 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 If a sumti prefixed with {la} (with either a selbri or cmene inside) has an associated relative clause/phrase or linked sumti, how much of these are part of the name, and how much are just extra information? There are situations where both are useful. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban-beginners/-/-Nk8ADS_A94J. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. ------=_Part_112_9863292.1358524784505 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 If a sumti prefixed with {la} (with either a selbri or cmene inside) has an associated relative clause/phrase or linked sumti, how much of these are part of the name, and how much are just extra information? There are situations where both are useful.

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