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On 29 January 2013 04:03, la gleki <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:

> what is the word for "velocity" after all?
> dont tell me it's {nilsutra}
> velocity=length/time
>

(I hate-await)

latro'a and I devised a system for making arbitrary units in Lojban. Our
system involves making a zi'evla for every unit you want, and defining it
using a special kind of tanru. Working under the assumption that XI+PA
forms #FREE, we created two experimental cmavo: {pi'ai} (KE) and {te'ai}
(XI).

{pi'ai} is used as a prefix to indicate that the unit-selbri are being
multiplied to form a new unit selbri. {te'ai} is used after a unit selbri
to exponentiate it.
We can easily create the units for velocity, m*s^-1, with this system as
follows:
1) prefix the tanru with pi'ai; {pi'ai ...}*
2) determine the unit selbri that we need: {mitre} and {snidu}; {pi'ai
mitre snidu}*
3) exponentiate accordingly; {pi'ai mitre snidu te'ai ni'u pa}

Because this new unit tanru is long, we need to make up a brivla for it
based on its components ideally. To indicate that it was created with this
method, we decided that prefixing it with pi'air- might be a good idea, but
perhaps that the prefix can be dropped contextually.

{pi'airtredilsnidu = x1 measures x2 metres per second (by standard x3)}
= pi'ai mitre snidu te'ai ni'u pa

Some of you may hate this system, and that's okay. It's not like I approve
of everything everyone does either.

An example of defining the Newton:
{.i lo ka pi'airniutni cu ka ce'u pi'ai ki'ogra mitre snidu te'ai ni'u re
ce'u ce'u}

I've been using {mitre} as a simplification for displacement. Obviously,
I'd need to construct some unit selbri for displacement, then use that in
these definitions above to get vectors.

.i mi'e la tsani mu'o

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On 29 January 2013 04:03, la gleki <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:=
gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com</a=
>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmai=
l_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left=
:1ex">

<div>what is the word for &quot;velocity&quot; after all?</div><div>dont te=
ll me it&#39;s {nilsutra}</div><div>velocity=3Dlength/time</div></blockquot=
e><div><br></div><div>(I hate-await)</div><div><br></div><div>latro&#39;a a=
nd I devised a system for making arbitrary units in Lojban. Our system invo=
lves making a zi&#39;evla for every unit you want, and defining it using a =
special kind of tanru. Working under the assumption that XI+PA forms #FREE,=
 we created two experimental cmavo: {pi&#39;ai} (KE) and {te&#39;ai} (XI).<=
/div>

<div><br></div><div>{pi&#39;ai} is used as a prefix to indicate that the un=
it-selbri are being multiplied to form a new unit selbri. {te&#39;ai} is us=
ed after a unit selbri to exponentiate it.</div><div>We can easily create t=
he units for velocity, m*s^-1, with this system as follows:=A0</div>

<div>1) prefix the tanru with pi&#39;ai; {pi&#39;ai ...}*</div><div>2) dete=
rmine the unit selbri that we need: {mitre} and {snidu}; {pi&#39;ai mitre s=
nidu}*</div><div>3) exponentiate accordingly; {pi&#39;ai mitre snidu te&#39=
;ai ni&#39;u pa}</div>

<div><br></div><div>Because this new unit tanru is long, we need to make up=
 a brivla for it based on its components ideally. To indicate that it was c=
reated with this method, we decided that prefixing it with pi&#39;air- migh=
t be a good idea, but perhaps that the prefix can be dropped contextually.<=
/div>

<div><br></div><div>{pi&#39;airtredilsnidu =3D x1 measures x2 metres per se=
cond (by standard x3)}</div><div>=3D pi&#39;ai mitre snidu te&#39;ai ni&#39=
;u pa</div><div><br></div><div>Some of you may hate this system, and that&#=
39;s okay. It&#39;s not like I approve of everything everyone does either.<=
/div>

<div><br></div><div>An example of defining the Newton:</div><div>{.i lo ka =
pi&#39;airniutni cu ka ce&#39;u pi&#39;ai ki&#39;ogra mitre snidu te&#39;ai=
 ni&#39;u re ce&#39;u ce&#39;u}</div><div><br></div><div>I&#39;ve been usin=
g {mitre} as a simplification for displacement. Obviously, I&#39;d need to =
construct some unit selbri for displacement, then use that in these definit=
ions above to get vectors.</div>

<div><br></div><div>.i mi&#39;e la tsani mu&#39;o</div></div>

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