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To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: nictytan@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of nictytan@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.173 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=nictytan@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8ff1c2fce7b3ed04d4740f9b X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --e89a8ff1c2fce7b3ed04d4740f9b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On 29 January 2013 12:20, Jonathan Jones wrote: > On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > >> parbi loni mitre loni snidu >> >> pab - tre - nid >> > > Sorry, quantity not property. > > A zi'evla might be better than a lujvo in this instance, if only because > the rafsi suck. > A zi'evla is actually a must, because the lujvo couldn't have the desired place structure, "x1 measures x2 meters per second (by standard x3)". Even if you throw jvajvo out the window completely, there's some serious place structure craziness going on if one were to assign parbi zei mitre zei snidu that definition. (Also, the lujvo should have parbi *last* because its the main claim.) .i mi'e la tsani mu'o -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. --e89a8ff1c2fce7b3ed04d4740f9b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 29 January 2013 12:20, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com>= wrote:
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Jonathan Jones= <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:

pab=A0 -=A0 tre=A0 -=A0 ni= d

Sorry, quantity not property.
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A zi'evla might be better than a lujvo = in this instance, if only because the rafsi suck.
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A zi'evla is actually a must, because the lujvo coul= dn't have the desired place structure, "x1 measures x2 meters per = second (by standard x3)".

Even if you throw jvajvo out the window completely, the= re's some serious place structure craziness going on if one were to ass= ign parbi zei mitre zei snidu that definition. (Also, the lujvo should have= parbi *last* because its the main claim.)=A0

.i mi'e la tsani mu'o

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