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To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lytlesw@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lytlesw@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.49 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lytlesw@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec54d4cfcc0c1e904d47b9ca1 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --bcaec54d4cfcc0c1e904d47b9ca1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 1:02 AM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > On Tuesday, January 29, 2013 10:18:59 Jonathan Jones wrote: > > parbi loka mitre loka snidu > > pab - tre - nid > > The Book recommends using the rafsi of "frinu" for this (the word "fi'u" > doesn't have a rafsi). Now there's a table or something in the Book > stating or > implying (I'm too tired to look it up) that the rafsi of "frinu" is "fi'u", > thus giving "trefi'usnidu", whereas the gimste assigns "fi'u" to "cfipu". > This > situation is, of course, cfipu. But "trefrinysnidu" is correct regardless > of > what "fi'u" is the rafsi of. > > This doesn't help with a word for "velocity", which shouldn't have any unit > names in it, despite the word "voltage". > Or "mileage", which isn't the number of miles in a distance. OTOH, speed as distance (or length) divided by time should be acceptable, as long as only the measurable properties are involved, and not units per se. stevo > > Pierre > -- > sei do'anai mi'a djuno puze'e noroi nalselganse srera > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. 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On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 1:02 AM, Pierre = Abbat <phma@bezitopo.org> wrote:
On Tuesday, January 29, 2013 10:18:59 Jonathan Jones wrot= e:
> parbi loka mitre loka snidu
> pab =A0- =A0tre =A0- =A0nid

The Book recommends using the rafsi of "frinu" for this (th= e word "fi'u"
doesn't have a rafsi). Now there's a table or something in the Book= stating or
implying (I'm too tired to look it up) that the rafsi of "frinu&qu= ot; is "fi'u",
thus giving "trefi'usnidu", whereas the gimste assigns "= fi'u" to "cfipu". This
situation is, of course, cfipu. But "trefrinysnidu" is correct re= gardless of
what "fi'u" is the rafsi of.

This doesn't help with a word for "velocity", which shouldn&#= 39;t have any unit
names in it, despite the word "voltage".
Or "mileage", which isn't the number of miles in = a distance.=A0
OTOH, speed as distance (or length) divided by tim= e should be acceptable, as long as only the measurable properties are invol= ved, and not units per se.=A0

stevo=A0

Pierre
--
sei do'anai mi'a djuno puze'e noroi nalselganse srera

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