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  The lack of a word meaning "not open for business" has been a topic of
discussion many many times in lojban's history.  Really, I'm not sure why
there isn't a gismu for it, since it seems to be a very basic concept.
 That would be very high on personal list for a gismu should baselining
ever be released.

  In any event, if you really think about it, a case could be made for
"spofu (be lo nu cuntu)" for this sense of "closed", since it's not
available for its normal purpose.  Another possibility is "se dicra"
                           --gejyspa

On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 11:57 AM, jongausib <so.cool.ogi@gmail.com> wrote:

> I suggest:
>
> {cu'urga'o}: g1 (entrance-way/store/company etc) is closed/shut/not open,
> preventing access to organized activity g2=3Dc1, by g3.
> {cu'urkalri}: k1 (portal/passage/entrance-way) is open/ajar/not shut,
> permitting passage/access to g2=3Dk1, by g3.
>
> /jongausib
>
> Den m=E5ndagen den 21:e januari 2013 kl. 19:04:39 UTC+1 skrev mudri:
>
>> My school was closed due to snow today. I attempted to express that fact
>> in Lojban (with a few extras), but got stuck on describing that kind of
>> "closed". There are two other words for different senses of the word
>> ({ganlo} =3D closed passageway; {tolgubni} =3D closed group/source &c), =
but
>> there's a bit more to a closed school/shop than the windows and doors be=
ing
>> closed.
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<div dir=3D"ltr">=A0 The lack of a word meaning &quot;not open for business=
&quot; has been a topic of discussion many many times in lojban&#39;s histo=
ry. =A0Really, I&#39;m not sure why there isn&#39;t a gismu for it, since i=
t seems to be a very basic concept. =A0That would be very high on personal =
list for a gismu should baselining ever be released.<div>
<br></div><div>=A0 In any event, if you really think about it, a case could=
 be made for &quot;spofu (be lo nu cuntu)&quot; for this sense of &quot;clo=
sed&quot;, since it&#39;s not available for its normal purpose. =A0Another =
possibility is &quot;se dicra&quot;</div>
<div>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0--gejyspa</div>=
<div><br></div><div><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 11:5=
7 AM, jongausib <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:so.cool.ogi@gmail.c=
om" target=3D"_blank">so.cool.ogi@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I suggest:<br><br>{cu&#39;urga&#39;o}: g1 (e=
ntrance-way/store/company etc) is closed/shut/not open, preventing access t=
o organized activity g<sub>2=3Dc1,</sub> by g<sub>3</sub>.<br>
{cu&#39;urkalri}: k<sub>1</sub> (portal/passage/entrance-way) is open/ajar/=
not shut, permitting passage/access to <sub>g2=3Dk1,</sub> by g<sub>3</sub>=
.<br><br>/jongausib<br><br>Den m=E5ndagen den 21:e januari 2013 kl. 19:04:3=
9 UTC+1 skrev mudri:<div class=3D"im">
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0;margin-left:0.8ex;borde=
r-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">My school was closed due to snow to=
day. I attempted to express that fact in Lojban (with a few extras), but go=
t stuck on describing that kind of &quot;closed&quot;. There are two other =
words for different senses of the word ({ganlo} =3D closed passageway; {tol=
gubni} =3D closed group/source &amp;c), but there&#39;s a bit more to a clo=
sed school/shop than the windows and doors being closed.</blockquote>


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