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 Content preview:  On Monday, February 04, 2013 14:37:39 .arpis. wrote: > Let's
    suppose I want to say "I hate the Ravens, more so than any other > sports
    team." (because them winning caused me to lose sleep). > > {.i da'i mi troci
    cu fanva zo'e sa'a mu'i lo du'u lo nu jinga ku rinka lo > nu mi na'e raumei
    sipna} > > I can say {lo ni mi xebni lai cipnrkorvo cu zmadu tu'a lo drata
    ke > xadykelci'e girzu} or {lai cipnrkorvo lo drata ke xadykelci'e girzu
   ku > zmadu lo ni mi xebni ce'u} > > Does {mi xebni lai cipnrkorvo se mau tu'a
    lo drata ke xadykelci'e girzu} > mean (more or less) the same thing? If not,
    how does it differ? [...] 
 
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On Monday, February 04, 2013 14:37:39 .arpis. wrote:
> Let's suppose I want to say "I hate the Ravens, more so than any other
> sports team." (because them winning caused me to lose sleep).
> 
> {.i da'i mi troci cu fanva zo'e sa'a mu'i lo du'u lo nu jinga ku rinka lo
> nu mi na'e raumei sipna}
> 
> I can say {lo ni mi xebni lai cipnrkorvo cu zmadu tu'a lo drata ke
> xadykelci'e girzu} or {lai cipnrkorvo lo drata ke xadykelci'e girzu ku
> zmadu lo ni mi xebni ce'u}
> 
> Does {mi xebni lai cipnrkorvo se mau tu'a lo drata ke xadykelci'e girzu}
> mean (more or less) the same thing? If not, how does it differ?

I'd say "mi xebni lai cipnrkorvo pesemau lo drata ke xadykelci'e bende". 
Attaching "semau" to the selbri makes it unclear whether you hate the Ravens 
more than you hate other teams, you hate the Ravens more than other teams do, 
or your hatred of the Ravens is more than other teams try to open the door (or 
whatever else tu'a could mean).

Pierre
-- 
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