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How about: > > ko surdei zanfri > Good Sabbath! > > In many cases I prefer {.a'o} over {ko}, but I admit that {ko} tends to > feel more energetic. > > mu'o mi'e la selpa'i > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.**com<= lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com> > . > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@**googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** > group/lojban-beginners?hl=3Den > . > > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. 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=A0 I usually use "ko zanfri lo surdei" myself.<= div>
=A0 --gejyspa

On Fri, = Jan 18, 2013 at 9:06 AM, Miles Forster <m3o@plasmatix.com> w= rote:
la .pier. cu cusku di'e

Here's one I said to clsn at one of the jbonunsla:
"lo panpi ko li'i surdei"
Should have been "lo ka panpi", and I know three ways to say it i= n four
languages: "shabbat shalom", "gut shabbes", "feliz= s=E1bado", "happy Sabbath".
What's the best way to say it in Lojban?

I don't think there is such a thing as the best way, but since the othe= r four languages have shorter ways to say it, maybe a similarly short Lojba= n version is desirable. How about:

ko surdei zanfri
Good Sabbath!

In many cases I prefer {.a'o} over {ko}, but I admit that {ko} tends to= feel more energetic.

mu'o mi'e la selpa'i


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