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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: On Sat, Feb 09, 2013 at 09:31:12PM -0500, Jacob Errington wrote: > On 9 February 2013 06:11, la gleki wrote: > > search for happiness. {sisku lo selgleki} or {sisku lo ka selgleki}? > > > > Which translation is correct? > > > > The second one, but probably not for the reasons you'd think. > > [...] > > With this definition, we can easily create a predicate meaning "to look for > properties that make you happy", e.g. {.i mi sisku lo ka mi gleki ce'u}. [...] Content analysis details: (0.2 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.2 RCVD_IN_NJABL_PROXY RBL: NJABL: sender is an open proxy [217.186.68.35 listed in combined.njabl.org] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature --3607uds81ZQvwCD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Feb 09, 2013 at 09:31:12PM -0500, Jacob Errington wrote: > On 9 February 2013 06:11, la gleki wrote: > > search for happiness. {sisku lo selgleki} or {sisku lo ka selgleki}? > > > > Which translation is correct? > > >=20 > The second one, but probably not for the reasons you'd think. >=20 > [...] >=20 > With this definition, we can easily create a predicate meaning "to look f= or > properties that make you happy", e.g. {.i mi sisku lo ka mi gleki ce'u}. Didn't you mean to say events/states here instead of properties? That's what gleki2 is supposed to be. Mixing up terms here is confusing. v4hn --3607uds81ZQvwCD0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlEXELAACgkQMBKLZs4+wjz+EwCeJBLJRrGGf0I17AZsjcxVarRs Fs4AmwQVlweh7xiSw1oVFVjR/bT4UqjV =Q5d5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --3607uds81ZQvwCD0--