Received: from mail-oa0-f56.google.com ([209.85.219.56]:51089) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1U4w05-0000Uk-As; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 08:13:06 -0800 Received: by mail-oa0-f56.google.com with SMTP id o17sf2241767oag.11 for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 08:12:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:x-received:received-spf :x-pair-authenticated:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version :to:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=8i82DeE+rFXnYXhYD3tHXQgL0OLTn5eLcPvBIVC4ywo=; b=NIPJycM+FTNarygCm64UTHUTx1twn+1EX/Wq5f1HhUwNZXypF9pHQltYOGR/1PiBog e3fOvKH+svuphd8F+3xb3CFNqq5exb8OyYQFCw4iKn/ljxcvkf2GjJOclBx31ga9sHZv QRNAQO3ixuYwc8d/yaw8xoO2Ah1DO0pX+f/GnODirVXqY4BcHGT5PtLe3yoiJrbJisO+ NlQMs+cgVDY/dQmZr3bn/VCjsc0qPdIbw8x3wTa+H3qyR+UYKHeMGa2nc38+zMnsejzS 4r3NXHZRw0cZpIPoUqhk18DnMfjL+vLTpSr069VN5JMzoGCbrSAeCMeaC2b/9paGnelt aQ3g== X-Received: by 10.50.214.36 with SMTP id nx4mr535238igc.6.1360599174179; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 08:12:54 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.192.134 with SMTP id hg6ls1705506igc.33.gmail; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 08:12:53 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.50.76.132 with SMTP id k4mr9287558igw.4.1360599173345; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 08:12:53 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.50.76.132 with SMTP id k4mr9287556igw.4.1360599173332; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 08:12:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay02.pair.com (relay02.pair.com. [209.68.5.16]) by gmr-mx.google.com with SMTP id dx8si1711962igc.1.2013.02.11.08.12.52; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 08:12:53 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 209.68.5.16 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of m3o@plasmatix.com) client-ip=209.68.5.16; Received: (qmail 7077 invoked from network); 11 Feb 2013 16:12:52 -0000 Received: from 84.175.65.100 (HELO ?192.168.2.100?) (84.175.65.100) by relay02.pair.com with SMTP; 11 Feb 2013 16:12:52 -0000 X-pair-Authenticated: 84.175.65.100 Message-ID: <51191886.3020203@plasmatix.com> Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 17:12:54 +0100 From: Miles Forster User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] A very beginner question... References: <7ebd7674-a2d9-4682-a26b-bfafbb00fc50@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <7ebd7674-a2d9-4682-a26b-bfafbb00fc50@googlegroups.com> X-Original-Sender: m3o@plasmatix.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 209.68.5.16 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of m3o@plasmatix.com) smtp.mail=m3o@plasmatix.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / la'o me. Demian Koller .me cusku di'e > Hi everyone. I'm not sure if this the place for a question this simple, > but here goes: Sure, this is one place where you can ask such questions. > [...] That said, will anyone tell me if > I'm saying the phrase "I love my family" correctly in Lojban? I came up > with: "prami le mi lanzu fa mi". Perfectly correct! > I'm obviously trying to play around > with place structure. I thought this form had a nice ring to it, versus > the simpler "mi prami le mi lanzu. And this one is also correct and means the same thing. If you have already learned about {be ... [bei] ... be'o}, you can also say {lo lanzu be mi}. This puts {mi} directly in the x2 of {lanzu}, so the whole sumti means "The family that I am a member of" = "My family". It is slightly more exact, but your version is also easy to understand. Keep up the good work. :) mu'o mi'e la selpa'i -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.