Received: from mail-fa0-f61.google.com ([209.85.161.61]:61063) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1U921H-0002mt-Ft; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 15:27:19 -0800 Received: by mail-fa0-f61.google.com with SMTP id p10sf377527fad.26 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 15:27:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:x-received:received-spf:date:from :to:subject:message-id:references:mime-version:content-type :content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=77/EFp20a235DkYraIjvxZ6EDRoQDE764Q4pR5NS7oc=; b=rQRrZKeqWLh8rNqjjaZqkGOLqbPRQTq23/GUGxpMGiNd4e+64CJWsuPL6fN6Rncp7b +vOyM4Gxw9VqUKc3qhqqQLxQW0lZjcdnQis9jqfw2/w+DT7e34rPM2/OhTRKOUhzVe/y wKQkVI+uxTYwLYVSpV0JCuu27oA9rkPgj4S6z1/CpetqpGtXsW24HXkKthIBCbf1AOnp lcFySHXcIFuZKXNTecbJBesxK0WJnwvla555nS9IWL2DFvsLdvShEV4ovrqq8rZavdG1 R5cU7IRjuGC9YM0vUz/A7kGPPw9AxHb+iXT+dl2WTSWnWj0jB1F6pW58Qi+lfnedpZNR 2Ncg== X-Received: by 10.180.82.3 with SMTP id e3mr23566wiy.14.1361575623270; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 15:27:03 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.180.73.142 with SMTP id l14ls16688wiv.46.gmail; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 15:27:02 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.14.184.9 with SMTP id r9mr5014756eem.7.1361575622470; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 15:27:02 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.14.184.9 with SMTP id r9mr5014755eem.7.1361575622456; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 15:27:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from dd17822.kasserver.com (dd17822.kasserver.com. [85.13.138.119]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 47si1098617eeh.1.2013.02.22.15.27.02 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 22 Feb 2013 15:27:02 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 85.13.138.119 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of me@v4hn.de) client-ip=85.13.138.119; Received: from samsa (brln-4dba8bca.pool.mediaWays.net [77.186.139.202]) by dd17822.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 9BDC48606DD for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2013 00:27:01 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 00:27:01 +0100 From: v4hn To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Terminator Elision Question. Message-ID: <20130222232701.GB8739@samsa.fritz.box> References: <7ce0d7ae-e6e6-4a62-9fea-c50dc85f9af4@googlegroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ZfOjI3PrQbgiZnxM" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <7ce0d7ae-e6e6-4a62-9fea-c50dc85f9af4@googlegroups.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Original-Sender: me@v4hn.de X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 85.13.138.119 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of me@v4hn.de) smtp.mail=me@v4hn.de Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --ZfOjI3PrQbgiZnxM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 02:52:02PM -0800, Demian Koller wrote: > Would someone clarify something for me regarding a sentence? It comes fro= m=20 > the Lojban for Beginners book, and it's an exercise in terminator elision= : 'mi=20 > skicu li re boi re lo pendo' Obviously it means 'I describe the number 2 = to=20 > 2 friends.' Removing the 'boi' ('mi skicu li re re lo pendo'), I come up= =20 > with the meaning 'I describe the 22 individual friends.' But the book say= s=20 That would be {mi skicu re re lo pendo} > the translation without 'boi' would be 'I describe the number 22 to a=20 > friend.' Does the 'li' before 're re' imply a terminator before the 'lo'? Yes, the term governed by {li} takes up one sumti slot. And {li} takes the longest following string which matches a number expressi= on, which in this case is {re re}. v4hn --ZfOjI3PrQbgiZnxM Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlEn/sUACgkQMBKLZs4+wjzwMACfWMrfLzIy52SORvH/v9KYQlMF 2X4An3UZpFty3YZgIxcrR0u8JwDR9YLY =IgVP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ZfOjI3PrQbgiZnxM--