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I've wondered the same thing. It does seem to imply a certain relativism or 
subjective judgment in some contexts.

On Monday, January 21, 2013 8:44:34 AM UTC-8, v4hn wrote:
>
> coi rodo 
>
> One of the many things about lojban which puzzle me lately 
> are all these "by standard x" places. 
>
> Take {fenki} for example which is defined as 
>
> x1 (action/event) is crazy/insane/mad/frantic/in a 
> frenzy (one sense) by standard x2 
>
> Given that definition, what does {tu'a ko'a fenki mi} mean? 
>
> Does it mean ko'a is crazy in my opinion, 
> or does it mean ko'a is crazy when compared to me? 
>
> Phrasing it differently, which standard 
> do these places represent: A standard of _judgement_ 
> or a standard of _comparison_? 
>
>
> mi'e la .van. mu'o 
>

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I've wondered the same thing. It does seem to imply a certain relativism or=
 subjective judgment in some contexts.<br><br>On Monday, January 21, 2013 8=
:44:34 AM UTC-8, v4hn wrote:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"marg=
in: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-l=
eft: 1ex;">coi rodo
<br>
<br>One of the many things about lojban which puzzle me lately
<br>are all these "by standard x" places.
<br>
<br>Take {fenki} for example which is defined as
<br>
<br>x1 (action/event) is crazy/insane/mad/frantic/in a
<br>frenzy (one sense) by standard x2
<br>
<br>Given that definition, what does {tu'a ko'a fenki mi} mean?
<br>
<br>Does it mean ko'a is crazy in my opinion,
<br>or does it mean ko'a is crazy when compared to me?
<br>
<br>Phrasing it differently, which standard
<br>do these places represent: A standard of _judgement_
<br>or a standard of _comparison_?
<br>
<br>
<br>mi'e la .van. mu'o
<br></blockquote>

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