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But that's so ambiguous, and the friggen point of lojban is to do away with 
ambiguity in every way! 

On Thursday, January 31, 2013 5:53:25 AM UTC-7, tsani wrote:
>
> On 21 January 2013 13:04, mudri <jammya...@gmail.com <javascript:>> wrote:
>
>> My school was closed due to snow today. I attempted to express that fact 
>> in Lojban (with a few extras), but got stuck on describing that kind of 
>> "closed". There are two other words for different senses of the word 
>> ({ganlo} = closed passageway; {tolgubni} = closed group/source &c), but 
>> there's a bit more to a closed school/shop than the windows and doors being 
>> closed. 
>
>
> Although it's not a totally satisfactory solution, you can simply use 
> {na}. 
> .i ri'agi snime carmi gi na ckule "Because of the snow, there was no 
> school." (Now, to actually say that it was cancelled, you could use {sei lo 
> jatna cu jdice} in the second bridi.)
> .i ze'a lo nicte na zarci (This one is weirder:) "When it's night, it's 
> not a store." This might seem a bit weird, but it makes sense. A store 
> that's closed is a store you can't buy from, and is thus not a store 
> anymore. This about it though, what I actually said for the school is 
> "With-physical-cause snow, it's not a school."
>
> .i mi'e la tsani mu'o
>  
>
>

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But that's so ambiguous, and the friggen point of lojban is to do away with=
 ambiguity in every way!&nbsp;<br><br>On Thursday, January 31, 2013 5:53:25=
 AM UTC-7, tsani wrote:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0=
;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;">On 21 J=
anuary 2013 13:04, mudri <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"javascript:" targ=
et=3D"_blank" gdf-obfuscated-mailto=3D"juDA5MB-igwJ">jammya...@gmail.com</a=
>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmai=
l_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left=
:1ex">

My school was closed due to snow today. I attempted to express that fact in=
 Lojban (with a few extras), but got stuck on describing that kind of "clos=
ed". There are two other words for different senses of the word ({ganlo} =
=3D closed passageway; {tolgubni} =3D closed group/source &amp;c), but ther=
e's a bit more to a closed school/shop than the windows and doors being clo=
sed.&nbsp;</blockquote>

<div><br></div><div>Although it's not a totally satisfactory solution, you =
can simply use {na}.&nbsp;</div><div>.i ri'agi snime carmi gi na ckule "Bec=
ause of the snow, there was no school." (Now, to actually say that it was c=
ancelled, you could use {sei lo jatna cu jdice} in the second bridi.)</div>

<div>.i ze'a lo nicte na zarci (This one is weirder:) "When it's night, it'=
s not a store." This might seem a bit weird, but it makes sense. A store th=
at's closed is a store you can't buy from, and is thus not a store anymore.=
 This about it though, what I actually said for the school is "With-physica=
l-cause snow, it's not a school."</div>

<div><br></div><div>.i mi'e la tsani mu'o</div><div>&nbsp;</div></div><br>
</blockquote>

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