On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 11:42 PM, la gleki <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:

On Saturday, March 2, 2013 10:18:07 AM UTC+4, aionys wrote:
On Fri= , Mar 1, 2013 at 11:03 PM, spitaki <create...@gmail= .com> wrote:

But that's so ambiguous, and the friggen point of lojban is to do away = with ambiguity in every way!=A0

No it isn't. T= he point is to remove /syntactic/ ambiguity, not /semantic/.

Can't lojban remove or increase = semantic ambiguity too?

Of course it can. That&#= 39;s what verbosity- or the lack thereof- is for. But that's not a uniq= uely Lojbanic thing. It's true of all languages. In general, semantic a= mbiguity is inversely proportional to verbosity.
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Well, closed/open is also very= often found in computer related terminology. In both cases I suggested {ja= i pruce} or alternatively {akti} =3D "x1 is active in x2 [activity]&qu= ot;.

so what is your opinion of {lo ckule na jai pruce} and = {lo selsampla ku jai pruce} (the app is running)?

No comment.
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On Thursday, January 31, 2013 5:53:25 AM UTC-7, tsani wrote:
On 21 January 20= 13 13:04, mudri <jammya...@gmail.com>= wrote:

My school was closed due to snow today. I attempted to express that fact in= Lojban (with a few extras), but got stuck on describing that kind of "= ;closed". There are two other words for different senses of the word (= {ganlo} =3D closed passageway; {tolgubni} =3D closed group/source &c), = but there's a bit more to a closed school/shop than the windows and doo= rs being closed.=A0

Although it's not a totally satisfactory solution, = you can simply use {na}.=A0
.i ri'agi snime carmi gi na ckule= "Because of the snow, there was no school." (Now, to actually sa= y that it was cancelled, you could use {sei lo jatna cu jdice} in the secon= d bridi.)

.i ze'a lo nicte na zarci (This one is weirder:) "When it'= ;s night, it's not a store." This might seem a bit weird, but it m= akes sense. A store that's closed is a store you can't buy from, an= d is thus not a store anymore. This about it though, what I actually said f= or the school is "With-physical-cause snow, it's not a school.&quo= t;

.i mi'e la tsani mu'o
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