Received: from mail-ye0-f191.google.com ([209.85.213.191]:50445) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UBn58-0000o3-GT; Sat, 02 Mar 2013 06:06:40 -0800 Received: by mail-ye0-f191.google.com with SMTP id r10sf1750769yen.8 for ; Sat, 02 Mar 2013 06:06:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:date:from:to:message-id :in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:x-original-sender :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=QIcdYUZXUpUzRCIbhkRF9/tsens/rSLcE8Vb0C/fAvs=; b=XTr/mdbAvOSAaRKfPNFGfxZKDIgwK3l6N4L2rDvZTCYSIr0f6IpZU58zMOJ9iP9sZ6 +UeIcr4jSWblJ5AMkskojsCoKd0dLJCdesIxiYgNEfvxK52hylgImhUj5VDSBKrMCSvS h2z5jPWOV8feCyq+gsaDCBAG0wm35PqvtXb0on9x93Ghu+NFHP8KHfDlRw5iNRKoLXjA T3yp1kPD2wZUaZI1ozLW8b9YZZO+SSACaPMgTMH61mlbYYz7tVAbeTh3nJz/kBVkJA0R 7+EOLtjMsvabex7Ihe99l0sj9rsB20RkgPZ2+dSLPXIaGaJph9O2L5o0BT4g80/MOoIT IZgQ== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:date:from:to:message-id :in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:x-original-sender :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=QIcdYUZXUpUzRCIbhkRF9/tsens/rSLcE8Vb0C/fAvs=; b=sSKEEbyd8sXjtIvAZJ6XX1qJmis3KuPDy3cnE9b1RvZiRgEeDdvpqDQlcRt0IPk8In 9p2IVVbc8W6yMWaiyWt73DFFePGdcu+Vk14PZUFMyMETokmEzrG810wspnJVyUiP2AlN fKlNV41I+0y8mfyOV7NmqItk5QbbScfzimkuZCneOMToSBurJELaHc0qNnmLU+oj9psS T4kQiTtyXfDCxx384KZo7D/xoXOoaa7J9SyhN8zvxW9rqlG5KcyWFbrt/cYXEBKkcSSn trrOrOb9FctUoBXlP+hJvOIUhDFXglmjtnrh7Ztw3l6LSYRunQYZeisHZ2AK6aTlgbCL BL+w== X-Received: by 10.49.97.104 with SMTP id dz8mr1582879qeb.16.1362233185712; Sat, 02 Mar 2013 06:06:25 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.49.71.177 with SMTP id w17ls1442894qeu.70.gmail; Sat, 02 Mar 2013 06:06:24 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.49.84.167 with SMTP id a7mr1546642qez.11.1362233184760; Sat, 02 Mar 2013 06:06:24 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2013 06:06:24 -0800 (PST) From: la gleki To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Message-Id: <9e7810d6-d223-4cfa-86b3-d48083749d50@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: References: <9c34f30e-16f3-4a34-8224-7ac964c4dfa0@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: "Closed" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_726_20176510.1362233184545" X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / ------=_Part_726_20176510.1362233184545 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Saturday, March 2, 2013 5:42:15 PM UTC+4, .asiz. wrote: > > "Unavailable" -> "not available" -> "can't be used" -> {na plika'e} > > {lo mi ckule na se plika'e ca lo cabdei ri'a lo nu snime carvi} or, > depending on context > {mi na plika'e lo ckule ca lo cabdei ri'a lo nu snime carvi} > It's not that it *can* be used. It's just actually used or not used. And of course we all remember about another possibility with {se pilno}. > On 30 January 2013 14:20, Michael Turniansky > > wrote: > > In any event, if you really think about it, a case could be made for > > "spofu (be lo nu cuntu)" for this sense of "closed", since it's not > > available for its normal purpose. Another possibility is "se dicra" > > --gejyspa > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. ------=_Part_726_20176510.1362233184545 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Saturday, March 2, 2013 5:42:15 PM UTC+4, .asiz. wrote:"Unavailable" -> "not available" -&g= t; "can't be used" -> {na plika'e}

{lo mi ckule na se plika'e ca lo cabdei ri'a lo nu snime carvi} or,
depending on context
{mi na plika'e lo ckule ca lo cabdei ri'a lo nu snime carvi}

It's not that it *can* be used. It's j= ust actually used or not used. And of course we all remember about another = possibility with {se pilno}.


On 30 January 2013 14:20, Michael Turniansky <mturn...@gmail.c= om> wrote:
>   In any event, if you really think about it, a case could be= made for
> "spofu (be lo nu cuntu)" for this sense of "closed", since it's no= t
> available for its normal purpose.  Another possibility is "se= dicra"
>                   &nb= sp;        --gejyspa
>

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