Received: from mail-la0-f60.google.com ([209.85.215.60]:46273) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UDAoj-0000Vo-41; Wed, 06 Mar 2013 01:39:28 -0800 Received: by mail-la0-f60.google.com with SMTP id fe20sf3120015lab.25 for ; Wed, 06 Mar 2013 01:39:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:received-spf:date:from:to:subject :message-id:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition :in-reply-to:user-agent:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=9DMgP++Ylmnv1v7oTMazVApi1KIKSl3gQB30BX6S9NI=; b=q4c5xuf8y4oHK563Ms1N9L9G1iSQLTCbrxBTHqJIfeYoZwfpFbApYtBRuE575p7lub 65gFtfF/uoVe49KJWfZe0av3pFX+ktXvoPFrR4n+0jCdRq/9tRVV83dmuHi3eDHCoaz3 /Wk7c+JrpXBvHLuGsEKA4nNe9VLZn3AxpAi2sCGKkjJGplI4EA45PjKVWn/6tE3ASlC1 pGpTeH+A3Z0WprsBB9I6KXJiqIFmmnOJGfqBdow9iahqLoA0+8lPjrWnwKAiHrtWJ4Ny vy5LT39xLhkul79TLSsa57aYHPvC5HW/EVrKSqpCmaFsgpAZ9cPD2J1/OvNmKgnvuxxU w6Rg== X-Received: by 10.180.37.225 with SMTP id b1mr1237603wik.9.1362562752786; Wed, 06 Mar 2013 01:39:12 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.180.74.52 with SMTP id q20ls126618wiv.30.canary; Wed, 06 Mar 2013 01:39:12 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.15.44.2 with SMTP id y2mr28975696eev.2.1362562752083; Wed, 06 Mar 2013 01:39:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from dd17822.kasserver.com (dd17822.kasserver.com. [85.13.138.119]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 6si7994082eej.0.2013.03.06.01.39.11 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 06 Mar 2013 01:39:12 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 85.13.138.119 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of me@v4hn.de) client-ip=85.13.138.119; Received: from samsa (brln-4d0cd220.pool.mediaWays.net [77.12.210.32]) by dd17822.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 5AC85865052 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2013 10:39:11 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 10:39:11 +0100 From: v4hn To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] lo ve tivni Message-ID: <20130306093911.GI28629@samsa.fritz.box> References: <26109c69-7826-4420-9b39-18b7bb0d35fa@googlegroups.com> <20130306082228.GH28629@samsa.fritz.box> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="v2/QI0iRXglpx0hK" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Original-Sender: me@v4hn.de X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 85.13.138.119 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of me@v4hn.de) smtp.mail=me@v4hn.de Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --v2/QI0iRXglpx0hK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Mar 06, 2013 at 01:54:32AM -0700, Jonathan Jones wrote: > On Mar 6, 2013 1:22 AM, "v4hn" wrote: > > > > On Tue, Mar 05, 2013 at 09:57:35PM -0700, Jonathan Jones wrote: > > > On Mar 5, 2013 9:03 PM, "Junpe OKAU" wrote: > > > > > > > > je'e ki'e .ui sai > > > > > > > > So, can you say {la'o zoi YouTube zoi cu tivni la'o zoi Lojban > > > Promotional Video zoi la'o zoi LogicalLanguageGroup zoi lo skami}? > > > > > > No, because YouTube isn't a television broadcast. That's video delive= red > > > via internet, not via radio waves. > > > > > > > I suppose there is a "in medium" place in {tevni} for a reason. > > Though YouTube violates some assumtions about broadcasting, like > > sending a fixed program, >=20 > And, you know, broadcasting, which is the transmission of audio and/or > video by modulating the frequency and/or amplitude of an electromagnetic > wave being sent from a radio transmitter. >=20 =2E.. which is only the third definition of "broadcast (verb trans.)" on Merriam Webster, where the first two are 1: to scatter or sow (as seed) over a broad area 2: to make widely known This is compatible with video streaming sites in my opinion. > la.iutub. benji lo skina lo mi skami fu lo kibro >=20 Sure, {tivni} always implies some {benji}. v4hn --v2/QI0iRXglpx0hK Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlE3Dr8ACgkQMBKLZs4+wjy9+ACeJl1OGsXgfYvBHo+JEkh+Pz9t WbUAn1ZlX3tTowYmsm3taeaV/DslihsU =2YNq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --v2/QI0iRXglpx0hK--