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I hoped 'nitcu cpana' would imply a needful kind of "upon-ing". 'Bumru', I hoped, would suggest dewy along with 'carmi carvi'. Anyway, as for yours, I really like 'minra dasni lo carvi'. Also, 'ne'a' is probably closer to the original in meaning. I was taking liberties. I'm struggling with 'funca', however... Thanks again! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. --f46d04462dd64780a504d8ac907d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1

"nitcu cpana" doesn't make sense, and I don't see where "bumru" comes from.
How about this?:

.i lo dukse mutce
cu te funca
tu'a lo xunre
ca'ercarce
noi minra dasni
lo carvi
ne'a lo blabi
jipci

mu'omi'e .pier.

Thanks, Pierre. I hoped 'nitcu cpana' would imply a needful kind of "upon-ing". 'Bumru', I hoped, would suggest dewy along with 'carmi carvi'.

Anyway, as for yours, I really like 'minra dasni lo carvi'. Also, 'ne'a' is probably closer to the original in meaning. I was taking liberties. I'm struggling with 'funca', however...

Thanks again!

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