Received: from mail-gh0-f185.google.com ([209.85.160.185]:43905) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UKyi2-0007b4-4N; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 15:20:46 -0700 Received: by mail-gh0-f185.google.com with SMTP id z17sf1646803ghb.2 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 15:20:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:date:from:to:cc:message-id :in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:x-original-sender :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=ZIYWE5SIuu6msjG0BaaDJY0aWF67pep+LbyhuIjFNv4=; b=ucJS7x26XVPKK+kfPQsP3OSZDRXXMZnAdofrettUiHJZGhfPgoW4YwYDHE7KDWLBNT YU6Bbqrw4iHmF6TUMeWZz9H7gj3vPsjCt40DvKs8onOGCOR/5CDF4gXcamfSkCorCLQ7 3oKbpK97w1aX3wKSBLO4zYH77AbUi7l+FNSN4YkP/1nT4XaL/9IZZfoBOJSJnwerILLS a0lhLaWy9+iJyju9XAhEgxk20lgJnPM7llDP2+vh4vXtSe3rtbBJ+hAw06yDZy2MWAqe cLlo+sd3WqGi9tjjX/9W9+1kQiD58trk2u2AadyTdwGp7ks2KuZ/5XvkWtnMkpvVBJq9 F96Q== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:date:from:to:cc:message-id :in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:x-original-sender :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=ZIYWE5SIuu6msjG0BaaDJY0aWF67pep+LbyhuIjFNv4=; b=yy1/YFYYRvQdjX7GQCA1oh3pO/xTICYem1ce3qK/Fo2EB2Hc1QwD8eCLlwyJB7cd2A pHgVL21//cywbRipjYiQ/ECuwjQs1UerxaTf9HzxtYdfiESU5Nz+q9F+0aioIWHDJAep zH71Ik3ZmMfnQbWOE5BUdV2j5TsgbU4quqKMI4JLkuUgGYgW4DBGnpdTZKGYZotcmsSB y9nApUUPih9hPdb5kNZDyKNb6glmbIonT2RsYo11h7e5dWZbUrOHPn8cdImCbK4ML2un WidCkiEG8pOsi3KIZsc3N3qPGAUTBTM0lKEZI8uoA7dof4Zgxd1CCJbgEi8vm7C3aNX9 QOcQ== X-Received: by 10.49.108.229 with SMTP id hn5mr1013680qeb.14.1364422834028; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 15:20:34 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.49.73.225 with SMTP id o1ls3070746qev.90.gmail; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 15:20:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.49.12.16 with SMTP id u16mr1600797qeb.31.1364422833304; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 15:20:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 15:20:33 -0700 (PDT) From: mudri To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Cc: libifrid@gmail.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: A question about the sentences understanding in Lojban MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: jammyatjammy@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_5557_8664443.1364422833051" X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / ------=_Part_5557_8664443.1364422833051 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Maybe you've seen {le mi zdani}, or some such. That does indeed mean =93my= =20 house=94 (or =93the house associated with me=94). It comes about through a = bit of=20 syntactic sugar, in which =93LE SUMTI SELBRI=94 is equivalent to =93LE SELB= RI pe=20 SUMTI=94. I don't mean to shout, by the way, I'm just using BNF conventions= =20 ;-). {le mi zdani} =3D {le zdani pe mi} {le le jurme ku zdani} =3D {le zdani pe le jurme [ku]}, though no-one ever= =20 uses the first form if it requires a {ku}. In fact, I don't know whether=20 it's correct with non-KOhA sumti. On Wednesday, 27 March 2013 20:52:26 UTC, libi...@gmail.com wrote: > > When I see a sentence like "mi zdani", why shold I understand it as "this= =20 > house is mine" instead of "i'm a house"? I mean, I know it doesn't make= =20 > sense, but I understood this language should be understood even by=20 > computers, and this means that it does not require thinking or knoledge= =20 > (like the knowledge that that meaning doesn't make sense) for understanin= g=20 > sentences. > > I'm looking forwards to your answer! > > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=3Den= . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. ------=_Part_5557_8664443.1364422833051 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Maybe you've seen {le mi zdani}, or some such. That does indeed mean =93my = house=94 (or =93the house associated with me=94). It comes about through a = bit of syntactic sugar, in which =93LE SUMTI SELBRI=94 is equivalent to =93= LE SELBRI pe SUMTI=94. I don't mean to shout, by the way, I'm just using BN= F conventions ;-).

{le mi zdani} =3D {le zdani pe mi}
{le le jurme ku zdani} =3D {le zdani pe le jurme [ku]}, though no-o= ne ever uses the first form if it requires a {ku}. In fact, I don't know wh= ether it's correct with non-KOhA sumti.

On Wednesday, 27 March 2013 = 20:52:26 UTC, libi...@gmail.com wrote:
When I see a sentence like "mi zdani", why shold I understand it a= s "this house is mine" instead of "i'm a house"? I mean, I know  it do= esn't make sense, but I understood this language should be understood even = by computers, and this means that it does not require thinking or knoledge = (like the knowledge that that meaning doesn't make sense) for understaning = sentences.

I'm looking forwards to your answer!

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