Received: from mail-ob0-f190.google.com ([209.85.214.190]:50282) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UL1a9-00005g-JX; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 18:24:50 -0700 Received: by mail-ob0-f190.google.com with SMTP id 16sf2952549obc.7 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 18:24:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:received-spf:mime-version :x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=0rb37AD6VIkWinhKHsU8IS4vSvXXWVat0Wcipc2ZTyM=; b=AMMcDFHiE5R1iuxwqT/pdFOqs1tFAPNe8G7+LI1WwZ8H8KNn1OF4A7Yo/L2Z8CvnM7 nY8nKsJlG8qt2RJtr1xpGzlmyDvS7rvfsKhvjDVd6t68KgYr3TmIQTjmA/LcBgJ0PvOR MkN30DHP9GZubyFMVyu+2ugO93A/lHOZMKSWxWTNeRyFcxaaFoT+wL/oYfrQ5VyRU/cz KyuXzOoXh5u9eoHgu1BtFTa+Y91ChdjV+pJ4MTtSfh6jofs3LLyo4HsoY/37siRyc75O FGv9OnX6jqBR72JWMFQQIH0JlzlFvvJQueE9ZCVy9Ig6P9c3UB2MYgsJTWD7yMCWsZOp QQ9w== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:received-spf:mime-version :x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=0rb37AD6VIkWinhKHsU8IS4vSvXXWVat0Wcipc2ZTyM=; b=els+h5G1mJK5mvTzOkgzaeMRhIxI22ruG4IYV6AMhV4vtcz0nOXD4U9epP/rwD85L4 SU52l7c71XVwIUO5kmoDQpySMccgW0kJ7btpN1h3BJAIlS/TDERanNzfjquTBJLf18hF GFeH4rIFkbSjb6Z+rjCaPYtCRQS2g24Kw3lkIMFFMHNvlGFW4fMSqKj0S1smnvo/Qfgr EvwO5bM0KlVsO02sTx8zunbQ3HMeD6lzpVnbrUHlVl4lFB3rPzGZTds58WDdyc0iM/wM Hka8fwvRdahuyjZWYYmj7pzUawXweldQIO5SYmi4+6Rh2vhO4PjuGBGFDEiAOx7zMZrH S0IQ== X-Received: by 10.50.27.1 with SMTP id p1mr1264920igg.11.1364433878974; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 18:24:38 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.182.136 with SMTP id ee8ls1321467igc.2.canary; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 18:24:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.43.45.130 with SMTP id uk2mr7161674icb.28.1364433878595; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 18:24:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ia0-x22d.google.com (mail-ia0-x22d.google.com [2607:f8b0:4001:c02::22d]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o6si607518igh.2.2013.03.27.18.24.38 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 27 Mar 2013 18:24:38 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of blindbravado@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4001:c02::22d as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:4001:c02::22d; Received: by mail-ia0-f173.google.com with SMTP id h37so7903896iak.32 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 18:24:38 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.184.132 with SMTP id eu4mr5727862igc.19.1364433878478; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 18:24:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.237.84 with HTTP; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 18:24:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 21:24:38 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] A question about the sentences understanding in Lojban From: Ian Johnson To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: blindbravado@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of blindbravado@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4001:c02::22d as permitted sender) smtp.mail=blindbravado@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=14dae9340ebda5774304d8f20478 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --14dae9340ebda5774304d8f20478 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 {du} is essentially never what you want. {ti zdani mi}, very simple. mi'e la latro'a mu'o On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 6:05 PM, MorphemeAddict wrote: > > > On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 4:52 PM, wrote: > >> When I see a sentence like "mi zdani", why shold I understand it as "this >> house is mine" instead of "i'm a house"? I mean, I know it doesn't make >> sense, but I understood this language should be understood even by >> computers, and this means that it does not require thinking or knoledge >> (like the knowledge that that meaning doesn't make sense) for understaning >> sentences. >> >> I'm looking forwards to your answer! >> > > How did you come to the conclusion that "mi zdani" means "this house is > mine"? > > x1 is a nest/house/lair/den/[home] of/for x2 > > "mi" is in the x1 place, and the x2 place is empty, so "I am a home". > > Now I wonder how to say "this home is mine". "ti du lo mi zdani" is 'this > is my home'. Would it start with "lo vi zdani ..."? > > stevo > >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Lojban Beginners" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en >> . >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. --14dae9340ebda5774304d8f20478 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable {du} is essentially never what you want. {ti zdani mi}, very simple.
mi'e la latro'a mu'o

On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 6:05 PM, MorphemeAddict <lytlesw@gmail= .com> wrote:


On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 4:52 PM, <libifrid@gmail.com> wrote:
When I see a sentence like "mi zdani", why shold I understand it = as "this house is mine" instead of "i'm a house"? I= mean, I know =A0it doesn't make sense, but I understood this language = should be understood even by computers, and this means that it does not req= uire thinking or knoledge (like the knowledge that that meaning doesn't= make sense) for understaning sentences.

I'm looking forwards to your answer!
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How did you come to the conclusion that "mi z= dani" means "this house is mine"?=A0

x1 is a nest/house/lair/den/[home] of/for x2

"mi" is in the x1 place, and the x2 place is = empty, so "I am a home".=A0

Now I wonder= how to say "this home is mine". "ti du lo mi zdani" is= 'this is my home'. Would it start with "lo vi zdani ..."= ?

stevo=A0

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