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coi ro do,  I have been wondering about the difference between using lo and 
ko and using cu.  For example, if I want to say "an American sells this tome" do the sentences "lo 
merko ku vecnu ti mi" and "lo merko cu vecnu ti mi" mean the same thing?
 
I know that cu means that a selbri is coming up and separates that from the 
sumti (that could turn into tanru without cu separating it) And that lo 
turns a selbri into a sumti and ko finishes the conversion.  .uanai I'm 
learning from wave lessons now instead of Lojban for beginners and they 
seem to be showing me different ways to say sentences lol.


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<span class=3D"GINGER_SOFATWARE_correct" ginger_sofatware_uiphraseguid=3D"b=
4d63f84-5829-44c4-8d5d-fb26932b9d29" grcontextid=3D"coi:0" ginger_sofatware=
_markguid=3D"a76e2bed-8f2e-4db5-83fd-ba58eb4f3068">coi</span>&nbsp;<span cl=
ass=3D"GINGER_SOFATWARE_correct" ginger_sofatware_uiphraseguid=3D"b4d63f84-=
5829-44c4-8d5d-fb26932b9d29" grcontextid=3D"ro:1" ginger_sofatware_markguid=
=3D"44c37dde-cfae-433a-b574-29e1d86739da">ro</span>&nbsp;do, &nbsp;I have b=
een wondering about the difference between using lo and <span class=3D"GING=
ER_SOFATWARE_correct" ginger_sofatware_uiphraseguid=3D"b4d63f84-5829-44c4-8=
d5d-fb26932b9d29" grcontextid=3D"ko:2" ginger_sofatware_markguid=3D"4f32396=
2-5e97-4884-bb92-08d80a9778f3">ko</span>&nbsp;and using <span class=3D"GING=
ER_SOFATWARE_correct" grcontextid=3D"cu:3" ginger_sofatware_markguid=3D"54f=
5d109-544c-444f-9725-00c76f71c56c" ginger_sofatware_uiphraseguid=3D"b4d63f8=
4-5829-44c4-8d5d-fb26932b9d29">cu</span>. &nbsp;For example, if I want to s=
ay "an American&nbsp;sells this <span class=3D"GINGER_SOFATWARE_correct" gr=
contextid=3D"to:0" ginger_sofatware_markguid=3D"2af516a2-f5c7-4935-8aaf-3f3=
e1b1e16b0" ginger_sofatware_uiphraseguid=3D"ad8b6dad-7a4d-4989-bbaf-ffcbd2c=
b35b1">to</span> me" do the sentences&nbsp;"lo <span class=3D"GINGER_SOFATW=
ARE_noSuggestion GINGER_SOFATWARE_correct" ginger_sofatware_uiphraseguid=3D=
"ad8b6dad-7a4d-4989-bbaf-ffcbd2cb35b1" ginger_sofatware_markguid=3D"0ec5122=
f-85eb-401c-8cb2-0e8cdbb9cee7" grcontextid=3D"merko:1">merko</span>&nbsp;<s=
pan class=3D"GINGER_SOFATWARE_correct" ginger_sofatware_uiphraseguid=3D"ad8=
b6dad-7a4d-4989-bbaf-ffcbd2cb35b1" ginger_sofatware_markguid=3D"1d7e64b1-76=
1b-494d-922b-004d8534d84c" grcontextid=3D"ku:2">ku</span>&nbsp;<span class=
=3D"GINGER_SOFATWARE_noSuggestion GINGER_SOFATWARE_correct" ginger_sofatwar=
e_uiphraseguid=3D"ad8b6dad-7a4d-4989-bbaf-ffcbd2cb35b1" ginger_sofatware_ma=
rkguid=3D"9692e02d-b34d-49e8-b846-5e6c931d24ae" grcontextid=3D"vecnu:3">vec=
nu</span>&nbsp;<span class=3D"GINGER_SOFATWARE_correct" ginger_sofatware_ui=
phraseguid=3D"ad8b6dad-7a4d-4989-bbaf-ffcbd2cb35b1" ginger_sofatware_markgu=
id=3D"e40f7266-2a70-4da8-8c31-3d831ca6a2c4" grcontextid=3D"ti:4">ti</span>&=
nbsp;<span class=3D"GINGER_SOFATWARE_correct" grcontextid=3D"mi:5" ginger_s=
ofatware_markguid=3D"f270b102-2f9c-48bd-b5ec-47906ec97ba9" ginger_sofatware=
_uiphraseguid=3D"ad8b6dad-7a4d-4989-bbaf-ffcbd2cb35b1">mi</span>"&nbsp;and =
"lo <span class=3D"GINGER_SOFATWARE_noSuggestion GINGER_SOFATWARE_correct" =
ginger_sofatware_uiphraseguid=3D"ad8b6dad-7a4d-4989-bbaf-ffcbd2cb35b1" ging=
er_sofatware_markguid=3D"93d32a5c-0995-42ab-91af-f2fd6f499577" grcontextid=
=3D"merko:6">merko</span>&nbsp;<span class=3D"GINGER_SOFATWARE_correct" gin=
ger_sofatware_uiphraseguid=3D"ad8b6dad-7a4d-4989-bbaf-ffcbd2cb35b1" grconte=
xtid=3D"cu:7" ginger_sofatware_markguid=3D"8d2c30fb-d1d9-4713-b994-6141c25a=
acac">cu</span>&nbsp;<span class=3D"GINGER_SOFATWARE_noSuggestion GINGER_SO=
FATWARE_correct" ginger_sofatware_uiphraseguid=3D"ad8b6dad-7a4d-4989-bbaf-f=
fcbd2cb35b1" grcontextid=3D"vecnu:8" ginger_sofatware_markguid=3D"00a9c997-=
9208-412a-a2c0-62f3714894a8">vecnu</span>&nbsp;<span class=3D"GINGER_SOFATW=
ARE_noSuggestion GINGER_SOFATWARE_correct" ginger_sofatware_uiphraseguid=3D=
"ad8b6dad-7a4d-4989-bbaf-ffcbd2cb35b1" ginger_sofatware_markguid=3D"e4ab0c6=
4-9f4b-4caa-944a-b724efb4d28f" grcontextid=3D"ti:9">ti</span>&nbsp;<span cl=
ass=3D"GINGER_SOFATWARE_noSuggestion GINGER_SOFATWARE_correct" grcontextid=
=3D"mi:10" ginger_sofatware_markguid=3D"8b777d81-79b5-42de-a73d-0fea87157dc=
9" ginger_sofatware_uiphraseguid=3D"ad8b6dad-7a4d-4989-bbaf-ffcbd2cb35b1">m=
i</span>"&nbsp;mean the same thing?<div>&nbsp;</div><div>I know that <span =
class=3D"GINGER_SOFATWARE_correct" ginger_sofatware_uiphraseguid=3D"eeba655=
b-d880-4182-841c-8f380e4a3906" ginger_sofatware_markguid=3D"2ee435eb-aac8-4=
c54-8b84-a632589cc73b" grcontextid=3D"cu:0">cu</span>&nbsp;means that a <sp=
an class=3D"GINGER_SOFATWARE_correct" ginger_sofatware_uiphraseguid=3D"eeba=
655b-d880-4182-841c-8f380e4a3906" ginger_sofatware_markguid=3D"5823714a-48c=
0-4088-a8bb-62489f10eac9" grcontextid=3D"selbri:1">selbri</span>&nbsp;is co=
ming up and separates&nbsp;that from the <span class=3D"GINGER_SOFATWARE_co=
rrect" ginger_sofatware_uiphraseguid=3D"eeba655b-d880-4182-841c-8f380e4a390=
6" ginger_sofatware_markguid=3D"efae0596-a060-47bf-a9e1-3d800a355ee3" grcon=
textid=3D"sumti:2">sumti</span>&nbsp;(that could turn into <span class=3D"G=
INGER_SOFATWARE_correct" ginger_sofatware_uiphraseguid=3D"eeba655b-d880-418=
2-841c-8f380e4a3906" ginger_sofatware_markguid=3D"71c289ea-bf61-4102-81bd-5=
6f463ab7eea" grcontextid=3D"tanru:3">tanru</span>&nbsp;without <span class=
=3D"GINGER_SOFATWARE_correct" ginger_sofatware_uiphraseguid=3D"eeba655b-d88=
0-4182-841c-8f380e4a3906" ginger_sofatware_markguid=3D"d42da840-da1a-4e41-b=
652-95506e8251b5" grcontextid=3D"cu:4">cu</span>&nbsp;separating&nbsp;it) A=
nd that lo turns a <span class=3D"GINGER_SOFATWARE_noSuggestion GINGER_SOFA=
TWARE_correct" ginger_sofatware_uiphraseguid=3D"eeba655b-d880-4182-841c-8f3=
80e4a3906" ginger_sofatware_markguid=3D"acb93a8e-2469-4e6f-a9fd-040a9a456a1=
b" grcontextid=3D"selbri:5">selbri</span>&nbsp;into a <span class=3D"GINGER=
_SOFATWARE_correct" ginger_sofatware_uiphraseguid=3D"eeba655b-d880-4182-841=
c-8f380e4a3906" ginger_sofatware_markguid=3D"ee2991c4-782e-414c-bdb9-7bf2d2=
790a79" grcontextid=3D"sumti:6">sumti</span>&nbsp;and <span class=3D"GINGER=
_SOFATWARE_noSuggestion GINGER_SOFATWARE_correct" ginger_sofatware_uiphrase=
guid=3D"eeba655b-d880-4182-841c-8f380e4a3906" ginger_sofatware_markguid=3D"=
84ca353a-0ed6-4fd2-9c8a-ccd846170fe6" grcontextid=3D"ko:7">ko</span>&nbsp;f=
inishes the conversion. &nbsp;<span class=3D"GINGER_SOFATWARE_correct" grco=
ntextid=3D".:0" ginger_sofatware_markguid=3D"dac3a0b4-8d70-4355-9c83-e93eb1=
1fdc4a" ginger_sofatware_uiphraseguid=3D"444d0fb8-05c6-47c4-9374-0eaec99f17=
34">.</span><span class=3D"GINGER_SOFATWARE_correct" grcontextid=3D"uanai:1=
" ginger_sofatware_markguid=3D"c85391a9-8c65-4721-b9f0-816a24d0cef6" ginger=
_sofatware_uiphraseguid=3D"444d0fb8-05c6-47c4-9374-0eaec99f1734">uanai</spa=
n> I'm learning from wave lessons now instead of Lojban&nbsp;for beginners&=
nbsp;and they seem to be showing me different ways to say sentences&nbsp;lo=
l.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div>

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