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Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 15:27:26 +0100
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Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] A question about the sentences understanding
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On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 01:19:19AM -0700, libifrid@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 01:52:26PM -0700, libi...@gmail.com <javascript=
:>wrote:=20
> > > I mean, I know  it doesn't make=20
> > > sense, but I understood this language should be understood even by=20
> > > computers, and this means that it does not require thinking or knoled=
ge=20
> > > (like the knowledge that that meaning doesn't make sense) for underst=
aning=20
> > > sentences.=20
> >
> > That conclusion is not entirely true. _Understanding_ regular lojban of=
 people
> > talking to each other is probably not that much easier than understandi=
ng english.
> > However, at least lojban is not as ambiguous, so you don't have to deal=
 with=20
> > the problem of parsing the sentence before trying to understand it.
> > (I mean, people don't know what "understanding" really means)=20
>=20
> So, you mean that the only advantage of Lojban is that you don't need to=
=20
> parse the sentences, but the meaning is indeed ambigous. This does not lo=
ok=20
> so big advantage. Isn't it? or did I miss some another advantages of Lojb=
an?
>

As unambiguous as possible. It's very vague though, as all natural language=
s are.
But that's not what I meant to say. Assuming we would have solved parsing a=
nd
disambiguation issues for english, it is still hard to "understand" both,
disambiguated english and lojban. We are still stuck with the thousands of =
years
old question of what the meaning of an utterance is.
Just wanted to take away your illusion of lojban being "the language you ca=
n use
to talk to computers". Lojban makes that much easier on the interface (lang=
uage) level,
but that doesn't solve semantics and scientifically we are not there yet. .=
u'iru'e


v4hn

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