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On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 1:22 PM, <libifrid@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> Thank you! I think I catch it!
>
> I was mistaken because I didn't pay attention to the order of the
> components in the sentece.
>
> But now I need to say that I still didn't understand the correct order of
> the words:
> Is there any rule that determines what each placement (x1, x2, etc.)
> means, or maybe it should be learned for each word, or maybe there is no
> any accurate rule but understanding is done in anoter way (for example:
> according to the context), so that maybe there exist some different
> meanings to the same placement in different sentencs?
>

There's no rule, the order of the place structure for each gismu was
determined by what the founder(s) thought was the best.

That said, gismu in the same semantic family typically have similar
structure, with the same type of place (eg. "of species", "by standard",
etc.) usually being in the same xN spot. There are, however, exceptions to
this, which is why many of us have the desire to enumerate and then expel
the exceptions.

In other words, there's no rule currently, but many of us want to make one,
of a sort.


> By the way, I was in a doubt wheather or not to ask this question in a new
> post...
>
> Thank you for the help!!
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<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 1:22 PM,  <span dir=3D"l=
tr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:libifrid@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">libifrid@gm=
ail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D=
"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<br><br>Thank you! I think I catch it!<br><div><div><br></div><div>I was mi=
staken because I didn&#39;t pay attention to the order of the components in=
 the sentece.<br></div><div><br></div><div>But now I need to say that I sti=
ll didn&#39;t understand the correct order of the words:</div>
<div>Is there any rule that determines what each placement (x1, x2, etc.) m=
eans, or maybe it should be learned for each word, or maybe there is no any=
 accurate rule but understanding is done in anoter way (for example: accord=
ing to the context), so that maybe there exist some different meanings to t=
he same placement in different sentencs?</div>
</div></blockquote><div><br>There&#39;s no rule, the order of the place str=
ucture for each gismu was determined by what the founder(s) thought was the=
 best.<br><br>That said, gismu in the same semantic family typically have s=
imilar structure, with the same type of place (eg. &quot;of species&quot;, =
&quot;by standard&quot;, etc.) usually being in the same xN spot. There are=
, however, exceptions to this, which is why many of us have the desire to e=
numerate and then expel the exceptions.<br>
<br>In other words, there&#39;s no rule currently, but many of us want to m=
ake one, of a sort.<br>=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"=
margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div></=
div>
<div>By the way, I was in a doubt wheather or not to ask this question in a=
 new post...</div><div><br></div><div>Thank you for the help!!</div></div><=
div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5">

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