Received: from mail-wi0-f190.google.com ([209.85.212.190]:50648) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1ULXZe-000474-9A; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 04:34:27 -0700 Received: by mail-wi0-f190.google.com with SMTP id c10sf136766wiw.17 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 04:34:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:received-spf:mime-version :x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=P8QodeGVMkkI6d2auwLuISNeNDWsvh9HRUZx8ejF1cU=; b=kZ4O2CV8aH+stKn+c63Eb3aX2JK9Zf8agcNKy5P1pP31A1DsTfsAwwaxE4DsYpeBNY BH+GXPQdQ+apMXJ/wyhzM/7DJkzGWYy/FJtkkRiKyZ2Atb3ex5T7LPUw79Zyl0T3yxuY XqIGnU4kpc/H4xXzUqs505mAyQHnLhrfEEOr0F6gxCEVcv50KmF/ClxvGA97fLJXWvlo IWW980Q6HjInQmHuYMVroyGUvvqBxxP2l7ZmnuwOJnsWBnPx09C4qLXCBAbiW38ltZtc BRfu0n+6y1PFGDHTLdnCOG4sbBU4OeDvVPfFvXPksT76XE0YUUOvBap2EWrKuhqa0gXK Qvlw== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:received-spf:mime-version :x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=P8QodeGVMkkI6d2auwLuISNeNDWsvh9HRUZx8ejF1cU=; b=SeHmf+GblL00XDSYVha1U9Me5EWFBcWKdxB4yRaG1cqfGF2vxFZ50wUxfwfdUnJjKE x0DgDLUiQB0OF/wx8P8lJfXuZb3wkUlyB1PUYpfkGY4TppHAFdU7oxDNvPazrxaIYBnw rDYZ/mcIR6ELtyn5lGJQCdLW73rtgDIVfiE7fpUj3luUVc8efks4JKMtvgmDvvOcrw35 zOlO3BS8S0pw/6yM7wNbTxrkudHMGU0fp92qn8CghFskTj+ky6h/aWWo48BNxHWhmYzZ C1D5B17q6sLv1pq1ME+/XsKZRi5cLQwtJkeEWRkx6rwoIhoe0x5qDrdZh/P+TX/FoNJu S78Q== X-Received: by 10.180.37.7 with SMTP id u7mr125040wij.21.1364556854306; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 04:34:14 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.180.24.100 with SMTP id t4ls146493wif.0.gmail; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 04:34:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.205.35.14 with SMTP id su14mr205799bkb.3.1364556853647; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 04:34:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-la0-x22a.google.com ([2a00:1450:4010:c03::22a]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 14si211464bky.0.2013.03.29.04.34.13 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 29 Mar 2013 04:34:13 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4010:c03::22a as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:4010:c03::22a; Received: by mail-la0-f42.google.com with SMTP id fe20so474783lab.1 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 04:34:13 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.49.201 with SMTP id w9mr1251010lbn.2.1364556852997; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 04:34:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.9.230 with HTTP; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 04:34:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <8f0f63e5-63f5-497b-b4ef-d978f77c0761@googlegroups.com> References: <374dce10-c5a1-4a78-9966-53931b281173@googlegroups.com> <20130328202536.GI6592@samsa.fritz.box> <8f0f63e5-63f5-497b-b4ef-d978f77c0761@googlegroups.com> Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 05:34:12 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: A question about the sentences understanding in Lojban From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4010:c03::22a as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec554d9847fbb5404d90ea67d X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --bcaec554d9847fbb5404d90ea67d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 3:26 AM, la gleki wrote: > On Friday, March 29, 2013 9:32:38 AM UTC+4, aionys wrote: > >> On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 10:57 PM, la gleki wrote: >> >>> On Friday, March 29, 2013 12:40:44 AM UTC+4, aionys wrote: >>>> >>>> On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 2:29 PM, Jacob Errington wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 28 March 2013 16:25, v4hn wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 02:04:31PM -0600, Jonathan Jones wrote: >>>>>> > There are, however, exceptions to this, which is why >>>>>> > many of us have the desire to enumerate and then expel >>>>>> > the exceptions. >>>>>> >>>>>> By the way, is there already a documented list of outliers >>>>>> which should be changed? People go on and on about that >>>>>> issue, but I didn't see a real list yet (though I also didn't search >>>>>> for it - There is just never a link in any of the respective posts). >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> http://www.lojban.org/tiki/**BPF**K+Section%3A+gismu+Issues >>>>> >>>>> Although this page has a lot of old, irrelevant content now. >>>>> >>>>> If you're talking about the regularization within semantic categories, >>>>> such a list hasn't yet been produced, I think, probably due to the lack of >>>>> a complete semantic categorization of gismu. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Last I heard, gleki was working on building that. >>>> >>> >>> No one can sto you from building alternative lists which is even >>> preferable. >>> >> >> You mean other than my complete lack of desire to do so? >> > > Lojbanic syndrom of laziness? .i'u > More like programmer's symptom of not-duplication of effort. -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! 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On F= ri, Mar 29, 2013 at 3:26 AM, la gleki <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com= > wrote:
On Friday, March 29, 2013 9:32:38 AM UTC+4, = aionys wrote:
On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 10= :57 PM, la gleki <gleki.is...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, March 29, 2013 12:40:44 AM UTC+4,= aionys wrote:
On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 2:29 PM, Jacob Errington= <nict...@gmail.com> wrote:
On 28 March 2013 16:25, v4hn <m...@v4hn.d= e> wrote:
On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 02:04:31PM -0600, Jonathan Jones wrote:
> There are, however, exceptions to this, which is why
> many of us have the desire to enumerate and then expel
> the exceptions.

By the way, is there already a documented list of outliers
which should be changed? People go on and on about that
issue, but I didn't see a real list yet (though I also didn't searc= h
for it - There is just never a link in any of the respective posts).


Although this page has a lot of old, irrelevant content= now.

If you're talking about the regularizati= on within semantic categories, such a list hasn't yet been produced, I = think, probably due to the lack of a complete semantic categorization of gi= smu.

Last I heard, gleki was working on building tha= t.

No one can sto you= from building alternative lists which is even =A0preferable.=A0

You mean other than my complete lac= k of desire to do so?

Lojbanic syndrom of laziness? .i'u

More like programmer's sympt= om of not-duplication of effort.

--
mu'o mi'e .aionys.

.i.e'ucai ko cmima= lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )

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