Received: from mail-ie0-f191.google.com ([209.85.223.191]:40266) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UNNVF-00028W-4n; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 06:13:30 -0700 Received: by mail-ie0-f191.google.com with SMTP id c10sf478383ieb.18 for ; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 06:13:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:received-spf:mime-version :x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=qcYzmFp2A4xg/wo+sGNCfqqd4KnhbNljKBeLfpCu7hY=; b=LyTH/RcmN0SS1ANg3sL5FR/LUPeZJfB0m1A/UyzmEvn/In+TWYWVKVyGFfs6v0VN0b hCSXETva3U10vnd4Auv6NU8AMe+Br6SZR7lbzkjTY5jquO1OQBI9h3+O5fHyqXTl+piL 0TsfeVFQWSEpioF3zoV8dK/RsMVDpXI0M9Hs+vLkc+Hv8Pc6R3rItM5eW41ATJae6EV7 suP801mwAWf7pPw3BH3FO7cDtXJ/UGRuMXTj5kX6CiMS6qn5AHt0o7Mf8NBarwZuviRp H+I8IFcVOI2hguBpTyCTSSfgrBuCBDfG4WqfCTDBQaB7Tihn5CGMmXd+00I6fkaNECgS hoUA== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:received-spf:mime-version :x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=qcYzmFp2A4xg/wo+sGNCfqqd4KnhbNljKBeLfpCu7hY=; b=v/i+GSEIv0WfhE1yhBkzCzg4wOS3d0wdH6lQYywDrvnyxA0L27sb11wAHE95oaRrZK Jxd2Z7KV4flmZF1+hO1yLwA7ujqrpwDTxT9EJiMW11MKBzqrCDKbK0Knx118OQodEYon meKlPGg7wVFiC4DpEykSnVkDakijj0/8sQKXGbXyA/27TbT1S8WUZvnACWRXP2TkmLU9 ahxfqk/twxTxttSkPwDnSB3mTJJgjoWDDWaHrU52eqGumPFJTOXjpONhrKcNFEknZ7By PihtTDjs+mnNKil2dGFMccvzpIuyYIyCvEpLALoqUHcEp1RlLp0R+Hj1/cfjnZyh4hkO +0ww== X-Received: by 10.50.236.101 with SMTP id ut5mr171697igc.17.1364994797919; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 06:13:17 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.76.234 with SMTP id n10ls1084082igw.23.gmail; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 06:13:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.43.113.131 with SMTP id ew3mr1418367icc.24.1364994796442; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 06:13:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ob0-x232.google.com (mail-ob0-x232.google.com [2607:f8b0:4003:c01::232]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id dl10si997503igb.0.2013.04.03.06.13.16 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 03 Apr 2013 06:13:16 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4003:c01::232 as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:4003:c01::232; Received: by mail-ob0-f178.google.com with SMTP id wd20so1361242obb.37 for ; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 06:13:16 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.56.36 with SMTP id x4mr1040566oep.25.1364994796179; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 06:13:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.97.33 with HTTP; Wed, 3 Apr 2013 06:13:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <9c34f30e-16f3-4a34-8224-7ac964c4dfa0@googlegroups.com> Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2013 09:13:16 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: "Closed" From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: mturniansky@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4003:c01::232 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mturniansky@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c249f6f2597b04d9749dda X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --001a11c249f6f2597b04d9749dda Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable .... which still supports my contention that "spofu" is the right word for this context. --gejyspa On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 8:42 AM, Felipe Gon=E7alves Assis < felipeg.assis@gmail.com> wrote: > "Unavailable" -> "not available" -> "can't be used" -> {na plika'e} > > {lo mi ckule na se plika'e ca lo cabdei ri'a lo nu snime carvi} or, > depending on context > {mi na plika'e lo ckule ca lo cabdei ri'a lo nu snime carvi} > > On 30 January 2013 14:20, Michael Turniansky > wrote: > > In any event, if you really think about it, a case could be made for > > "spofu (be lo nu cuntu)" for this sense of "closed", since it's not > > available for its normal purpose. 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=A0 .... which still supports my contention that "spo= fu" is the right word for this context.
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0--gej= yspa


On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 8:42 AM, Felipe Gon=E7alves Assis <felipeg= .assis@gmail.com> wrote:
"Unavailable" -> "not avai= lable" -> "can't be used" -> {na plika'e}

{lo mi ckule na se plika'e ca lo cabdei ri'a lo nu snime carvi} or,=
depending on context
{mi na plika'e lo ckule ca lo cabdei ri'a lo nu snime carvi}

On 30 January 2013 14:20, Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote:
> =A0 In any event, if you really think about it, a case could be made f= or
> "spofu (be lo nu cuntu)" for this sense of "closed"= ;, since it's not
> available for its normal purpose. =A0Another possibility is "se d= icra"
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0--gejyspa
>

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