Received: from mail-wi0-f191.google.com ([209.85.212.191]:56069) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Ua2U8-0007ie-Gl; Wed, 08 May 2013 04:24:44 -0700 Received: by mail-wi0-f191.google.com with SMTP id l13sf369197wie.8 for ; Wed, 08 May 2013 04:24:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:received-spf:mime-version :x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=fHpatTmlPqbfJVAsfLUufbd/Ca1XPoofry9hJSvqcjo=; b=XhfkCDt1KDTagf5jD/7278L4PTx91F07brFrUSbHV8xTCnuU2CWZPLZJotzzkSMfJc bQwvZxMT/GxJi+FkyhuQnrku1aZbYy2qIjsbH6kcrF8geGdVSbgKgPzUJrMF1xmgaH47 m43pMk3bPVet5SokZGAu+Ct+FD/rmNhJ2ru2mK2d/aS5lO1NMvvqJijkXQXyFPTqdpBY NVy6IWsVY5Nt0qHbB3pVFozDFqK931BiuE1g5PNUg4N95Cm7z3U7lTBoN7O6Z8Yv0ZAh m5ag0oCove3Sr/ihdWlWdwXYtOoQ+WhPLvJESAwPZX2bUKbYdMZ5JBsK1rr2UK4+U0OS gN+Q== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:received-spf:mime-version :x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=fHpatTmlPqbfJVAsfLUufbd/Ca1XPoofry9hJSvqcjo=; b=PNvMhdXFWwZEgY/tGTZrf8LO12STVbDyGB2EZY13eA1gQkjmxyYhePtssCFUTdJTgU tKQYY8D3cH8idZWbuJPkBIT05EL3FOZPSpAqcJ635nPP8gvSEPldsJa1Xg9gNKrpD3q9 5ivCQMFum+T8dk94s5/uy61uWpD0vvZYtmauAyBJISTQDROpNJX2MC9URSIe9f7m77or Nqhbq6MmEc86BV4vNj8ifriXZiHFhLeeLSbA944aRL5I6PH4d2+q/jjENxSZp72dLBn1 truNrMMKWxHG5n3BhFFEEuTiv6IOC7dVfOaaH+pChm9nbUxn1GWwwswB6fjGkS3nTjcM jR8w== X-Received: by 10.180.211.194 with SMTP id ne2mr1290507wic.8.1368012268985; Wed, 08 May 2013 04:24:28 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.180.8.40 with SMTP id o8ls1387700wia.40.canary; Wed, 08 May 2013 04:24:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.180.38.5 with SMTP id c5mr567434wik.3.1368012266749; Wed, 08 May 2013 04:24:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wi0-x22e.google.com (mail-wi0-x22e.google.com [2a00:1450:400c:c05::22e]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l7si296747wic.0.2013.05.08.04.24.26 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 08 May 2013 04:24:26 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lorddraqo@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c05::22e as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c05::22e; Received: by mail-wi0-x22e.google.com with SMTP id m6so4898089wiv.13 for ; Wed, 08 May 2013 04:24:26 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.185.135 with SMTP id fc7mr21275974wic.29.1368012264823; Wed, 08 May 2013 04:24:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.28.42 with HTTP; Wed, 8 May 2013 04:24:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <3753338.r5Jc2uzsB3@caracal> Date: Wed, 8 May 2013 06:24:24 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Looking for a definition From: Lee Carlson To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lorddraqo@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lorddraqo@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c05::22e as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lorddraqo@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c33d1417e55504dc332d86 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --001a11c33d1417e55504dc332d86 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 ki'e rodo On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 12:13 AM, Ian Johnson wrote: > On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 12:49 AM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > >> Btw, "fi'i" is "welcome" in the sense of "Welcome to my humble abode". >> "Thank >> you" is "ki'e do", which is answered with "je'e". >> >> Pierre > > This is an old topic, and I figure I should insert my thoughts on it. To > me {fi'i} is not acknowledgment of thanks by itself, but can be an > expression of hospitality, which becomes "you are welcome to receive more > help" in contexts like this one. Consequently a common response from me to > a student saying {ki'e} is {je'e fi'i ui}, if I actually want to say that > they should feel free to ask for more help (which of course I do). > > mi'e la latro'a > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- The World is a magical place, waiting for our senses to grow sharper. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. 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On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 12:13 AM, Ian Johnson <= blindbravado@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, M= ay 8, 2013 at 12:49 AM, Pierre Abbat <phma@bezitopo.org> wro= te:
Btw= , "fi'i" is "welcome" in the sense of "Welcome= to my humble abode". "Thank
you" is "ki'e do", which is answered with "je'e= ".

Pierre
This is an old topic, and I fi= gure I should insert my thoughts on it. To me {fi'i} is not acknowledgm= ent of thanks by itself, but can be an expression of hospitality, which bec= omes "you are welcome to receive more help" in contexts like this= one. Consequently a common response from me to a student saying {ki'e}= is {je'e fi'i ui}, if I actually want to say that they should feel= free to ask for more help (which of course I do).

mi'e la= latro'a

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