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On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 05:49:08PM -0400, Ian Johnson wrote:
> On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 5:40 PM, v4hn <me@v4hn.de> wrote:
> > {pa le karci} or {pa karci} (if a number preceeds the bridi you don't necessarily
> > need an article, you can think about this as {pa lo karci}) can be used
> > for that, an inner quantifier is not needed here.
>
> {pa karce} is rather unlikely to mean what you want. In particular it does
> *NOT* mean the same as {pa lo karce}. Instead it actually means exactly
> what {pa lo karce} meant before xorlo was implemented, that is "there
> exists exactly one car such that ..."

Agreed, I never use that and got confused when reading

lo with an outer quantifier, which is exactly the same thing
as just sticking a number before an item (i.e. "mu lo bakni" == "mu bakni"
== "five cows), works pretty much as before: "five things that really are cows".

at http://www.lojban.org/tiki/How+to+use+xorlo . Someone might want to rephrase that.


mi'e la .van. mu'o

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